Mp3 cd
 

I have 07 Z06 with stock NAVI and trying to make mp3 file cd, but I cant help me out here:willy:

Nero create MP3 disc (not data)
25 + ".mp3" file names (A.F.5)
29 character folder names.
No VBR.
ID3 version 1.x tags (ID3TagIt)

If there are any issues left after using these 5 pointers, describe the problem.

download ..IMGBURN
set it to ISO9660 and just pick your music and burn
it does all the work for you

Goodluck :thumbs:

If you use Nero, how do you remove the VBR?

My mp3's play but with a time limit of 5 minutes per track, then move to the next track.

It appears that IMGBurn only burns audio discs, not MP3 discs. It will use mp3 files as a source but decode them before burning only allowing 80 minutes max per disc. An mp3 disc can contain over 50 hours of files.

If you're running windows, you can do it the same way you would burn any file to a cd, whether it be a word file, text file, etc.

Open the drive that contains your blank cd in "my computer". Drag and drop all of the mp3 files into that window. Select file-"write these files to cd". Then select "data cd" (not "audio cd"), next, next, etc.

Yes, playing for a while and skipping to the next track is a symptom of VBR and files with a large dynamic range. You need L.A.M.E. http://lame.sourceforge.net/ to easily convert from VBR to a fixed rate. Unfortunately, because of patent restrictions, it is difficult to obtain. The link above is to the computer source code and you would need to compile the program from that source code which is above the capabilities of most users. There are programmers who will risk the ire of the patent attorneys and post lame.dll (sometimes also called lame_enc.dll) which is the compiled file that you need. Try Google. Be very careful where you download this file since you are downloading a program which could contain a virus.

Once you have it, to do a batch conversion:
I use 2 batch files the first I will call lamebat.bat and consists of 3 lines as follows:
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rem This batch file will convert 1 track in directory c:\erase\mp3s\VBR to 192 CBR in directory c:\erase\mp3s\test

rem the 9 parameters allow up to 8 spaces in the file names

"c:\program files\eac\lame" --mp1input -b192 -h -m a "c:\erase\mp3s\VBR\%1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9" "c:\erase\mp3s\test\%1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9"
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Make sure when you create this batch file that you use an editor which doesn't throw in extra line feeds. I added a blank line between each of the 3 lines. I think you can see where you would set the final bit rate.

The second batch file is the one that points to all the individual tracks and is the one you run directly. A sample is as follows:
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call lamebat 75_01 Love Will Keep Us Together.mp3

call lamebat 75_02 Rhinestone Cowboy.mp3

call lamebat 75_03 Philadelphia Freedom.mp3

call lamebat 75_04 Before The Next Teardrop Falls.mp3
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Again I inserted an unneeded blank line between lines to make it easier to see what each of the 4 line were. I create this file by first piping a directory to a file. Go to the source directory and at a command line type "dir >runthis.bat" without the quotes. This will generate a file named runthis.bat with a list of all files. Dir /s >runthis.bat would list all files in the "root" directory and all subdirectories. I then use a simple text editor to massage each line as needed and remove the extra lines of the directories. Just make sure you don't have word wrap turned on in the editor or it will screw up longer lines.

This probably sounds more complicated than it really is once you do it a couple of times. I can set up a disc with 5 subdirectories for conversion in less than 5 minutes. This then allows me to go do other things while each conversion is being done rather than sitting there for hours typing another name as each finishes.

I'm trying it now but can't you just use Windows Media Player? I rip'd my CD's as mp3 files using best quality, then Burned them using Burn speed "Fastest", Checked Apply volume leveling across CD's, Add a list of all burned files to the disk in this format "M3U", checked use media information to arrange files in folders on the disk and selected convert to 192Kbps - Best Quality.

I'll let you know if it works.....

Mark

Have you ever tried that? It sure doesn't work on most of our systems. You must create an MP3 disc and not a data disc for the nav to be able to read it as a valid disc. And then the disc must be finalized (which software that creates MP3 discs rather than data discs typically does automatically). Yes, the discs you create with Windows will read just fine in Windows but the car will say "No Valid Disc Loaded".

I've never heard of anyone who got that to work. Again, Windows plays discs that are created by Windows and Media Player says it will create MP3 discs because it creates data discs that can be read by Windows but the don't work in the car. Let me know if it works because I am VERY interested in finding out why it could work for someone.

Wow! My car Kenwood DVD/Nav/CD/UBS/ reads everything! I surprise that the GM car DVD player is so fusses. It must of be designed many years ago; to be so restrictive.

Well just tried it in my 08 Impala. It has the GM single disk cd player with am/fm/xm and aux input. It worked Great!! It read the folders as the different Albums and displayed the song titles! Will try it tonight in the Vette when I get home as it has the Nav System in it. I would think that if it works in my Impala's GM sound system that it should work in the other.......but who knows...... :eek:

Mark :thumbs:

If you have a PC, set Windowa Media Player to rip MP3, setting your sample rate, and you're done. Rip yoru music cd's, then drag and drop to the right menu. Burn. It works great for me. Set it up correctly in the preferences under file menu (iirc). MP3 cd's are data, not audio. If you select audio it will convert the ripped mp3's into wav or wma files.
John

Maybe I'm confused. Are you talking about making an mp3 audio cd? I know it works that way on all the cars I've tried...my '05 vette, mercedes e class, 350z, etc.

These are the setting I used. Not sure were the (iirc) option is on my version of Media Player.
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...P3Options1.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...P3Options2.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/u...P3Options3.jpg

If it does not have the "Classic" Windows Tool Bars across the top you can hit "Ctrl M" and it will bring them up. Then select "Tools" then "Options" to get to the above options tabs....

Mark

The Nav/Stereo is just a big, fat POS!

-I am in IT and know how to burn mp3 files to a disc... The unit sucks.

I just tried it that way and it did not work:
message said not correct disc format, or something to that effect ;)

Most importantly:
keep in mind, some of these methods work, in a 6 CD player without NAV or the 6 CD player added to the car that has NAV..
and some other vehicles with NAV that have the Factory 6 CD player ( Escalade etc )...

but..

They do not work in the VETTE with NAV setup and single CD player !

Listen to ForMorganAl,.. he's been able to get them to work in the single CD player with NAV in the VETTE.

he knows what he is talking about :cheers:

Here's another thread that explains a LOT about why and why not the discs will and will not work and what to do to make them work correctly.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-with-nav.html

Well It didn't work in the Vette..... Not having any luck getting any MP3 data files to work. Guess I will have to break down and buy some software...... Just hope that when I finally get it to work in the Vette it will still work in my Impala..... Hate to have to make 2 different CD's....

Mark :willy::willy::crazy:

I drive rentals often and take MP3s that I have made for the Corvette and none have failed as far as I can tell. Some of the requirements I talk about here are obscure enough that some people might not notice (vbr leaving an extra 2 seconds of silence or cutting off 1/2 a second early, one long named song out of 100 missing, etc.) I would expect an MP3 that works in the Corvette nav unit will work almost anywhere.

In my experience the Corvette nav is the pickiest to get working. Once you learn the tricks they are easy to create and work perfectly but the learning curve to get the first one burned correctly can be steep. It is a very similar situation to using the nav for navigation. Some people hate it because they have never taken to time to figure out how it works. Others love it because they don't have any problems at all.

Before you buy a program, ITunes will work but I found it very difficult to get the desired folders and play order. It can be done but it is hard. I am burning a disc with Media Monkey at this moment and it was easier than ITunes to organize. I'll be back in a little while and let you know if it works in the nav.

EDIT! IT WORKS! Media Monkey created a disc that worked. I still used ID3TagIt and A.F.5 to massage the files first and you need to create your own directory structure but it worked! The magic incantation to get the right directory structure was, after starting to burn, the "disc format" should be "<folder:2>\<filename:25>" were "2" is the number of parent directories to ignore before creating directories on the CD. I used 2 because I had C:\erase\test\1, C:\erase\test\2, etc. and I wanted just directory 1, 2, etc. on the CD. I burned 84 songs (about half the disc) and, so far, I haven't found an error.

Media Monkey

P.S. I'm not saying Media Monkey is the best. I still prefer Nero. Media Monkey, like ITunes is over kill and too complex just to burn discs but it does work and it is a free download. You can purchase a Gold version that burns discs faster (among other things).

I used Media Monkey, still get songs cutting off after 5min. I guess I need to learn how to adjust this VBR. Does anybody have step-by-step directions?

(iirc) = If I recall correctly

Instead of M3U I have mine set to WPL in the data disk section.

Do not convert is selected.

I get 100-150 MP3 songs on a CD with IMGBURN.The disc is only limited by the amount of MB used. Please tell me how u get over 50 hrs of music on an CD

OK. I know I'm behind in the MP3 times. I have over 400 songs on ITunes and I want to put them on a MP3 disk. I would like the song titles etc. I have been able to move to a audio CD the take that audio CD and then burn to a MP3 but loose the song titles.

HELP... :willy:

Dummy looking for step by step

Thanks I'll give it a try!! :cheers:

Mark :thumbs:

Use iTunes software - Burn with Data CD selection
 

VERY EASY - I used to use Nero (had to make sure every song was less than 52 chars) but iTunes works PERFECT!

All you do is burn your CD with iTunes burner - very important - SELECT DATA cd burning and use 16x speed.

PERFECT - all the songs will appear on your touch screen with artist name, song etc completely spaced and playing perfectly.

Let us know how that works out for you.

Bonez

I use Nero ver 6.x, making sure the file name is the right length and burn the MP3's as a data CD. Works perfect in my 07 nav.

Try iTunes, its better for burning cd's for the Vette, can have as many characters and symbols in song titles as you want. Nero is great but iTunes is better for the Vette.

We really need to put FortMorganAl's info in the FAQ as he is always a big help and it seems crazy for him to have to keep typing things again and again...:thumbs:

Ok sounds great but I see its 70mb and pretty invasive. I don't have an Ipod, don't need to go to the apple store, don't need it as a music or video player etc, etc.

Is there any way to install just the burner application with out all the bloatware I don't need?

Thanks!

I have a 2005 (no NAV system) and my MP3's play flawlessly. I also DJ so I make up to 80min. mix's (MP3), using audio equipment, burn them onto my hard drive (laptop) @ 128bits, then burn them again (up to 9, 80min. mix's) onto Audio CD. They play just fine and ound great in my vette since I'm using digital equipment to DJ with (Serato)in my vette. I use WMA on my laptop and I've never had any problems with formatting or downloading musc from my system. I think you really have to make sure you use "Audio" or "Music" CD's. The "Data" and "All Source" CD's have never worked for me musically so I don't even waste anymore time/money with them.

:willy: OK,

I tried to move my Play list from Itunes to a Data CD for use in my 08 Nav Corvette... It says not a Vailed CD. What am I doing wrong.

Only 99 songs just over 6 hours of music and will not work.

HELP ME PLEASE...:willy::willy::willy::willy::wi lly::willy::willy::willy:

This is :bs

Tryed still not working..:ack:

I wouldn't install I-Tunes on a windows PC unless I had an Ipod and then its required. The program was made for a Mac and has always had problems with Windows. It is bloated, complicated and invasive.:thumbs:

If they'd have written it in 370 Assembler there'd never be any virus risk! :lol:

I have a Iphone and my kids have Ipods.. We have over 1000 songs and I can not get them to make a MP3 CD that will work in my Vette.

WTF...

Is there a ITunes person on the form that can tell me how to get this done..

Thanks.:toetap:

That's what I figured. Thanks

Use iTunes - create a playlist of the songs you want to burn. Put a blank recordable CD in your drive. Lower right corner of the screen you will see a burn button. Click that and make sure you select burn DATA disk. This will put your music in data format on the CD. When done put the CD in your Vette and it will recognize all the music perfectly.

Make sure you have a blank recordable CD in the drive, the one your using might be defective or damaged.

I just tried using Itunes with the directions posted here, and it worked great. Didin't have to change any titles or anything at all.

I had previously givin up trying to burn MP3 cd's.

Thanks!

:lurk:

I use CD-RWs to record podcasts when I go on long trips then erase them when I get home....NAV unit reads RWs fine also!:thumbs:

I'm a computer guy and I can honestly say, iTunes is not an invasive application. Yes its made by Apple and Yes it can sync with your iPod/iPhone, and yes it can be used as a player etc. However, if you ask me, and I've been through it all from updating my firmware on the Vette NAV so it can read mp3's to using Nero till I went blind making sure I had 52 or less characters in my songs with no symbols so the Vette Nav would recognize it. Trust me, install iTunes, 70 mb is nothing these days for an application, and use the burn function and make sure you select make data cd for your burn. You won't have to worry at all about song length or other character and your songs will play and look great in the Vette Nav. - - Trust me on this.

How does itunes automatically prevent the character/symbol conflict?

Does it shorten/edit the file names on it's own?

Is it set up for other nav's like the vettes that have these requirments?

Thanks.

TBonez

Where did you get the firmware update for the Nav. Been trying to find out here and haven't got an answer as of yet.... Also is there a way to tell what version is currently on our Nav unit?

Thanks

Mark:cheers:

The firmware update for MP3s only applies to 2005 NAVs:thumbs:

Thanks!! :thumbs::thumbs:

Will This work for a 2008 NAV. System. I have tryed several ways and the data does not seem to work I got one to work after I changed ofer from the Itunes format to MP3 format and burned a MP3 CD but the Artist is not listed and only part of the folders work.:willy:

Thanks

I'm no IT specialist, but I followed the instructions from another thread and everything worked great. First, I have a 2005 coupe w/NAV built at the end of the model year. The software program that I used to burn CDs is ROXIO. I make a data CD, created folders on the CD and loaded them with the corresponding MP3 files. I've reduced a CD folder that held about 70 CDs to about 6. I can put over 200 songs onto each CD.

By the way, I have a 2005 Audi A6 (great car) that will not read the same CD that the C6 does. I think that it's because the Audi was built early in the model year (I picked it up right after the introduction). I'll see if there is a software update on it.

It takes care of the symbols on its own and will automatically shorten as well. The Vette Nav handles it perfectly, all songs play and its just wonderful.

Not sure about finding what version your Nav currently is on, but I got the firmware from this forum... uggh I think I deleted the name of the guy I got it from but if you do a search for GM NAV disk firmware you should find it on this forum, that's what I did. Many make copies and you can follow the instructions on how to update your Nav. Now, if you have a 2005 and you want to get the firmware that enables your Nav to play .mp3s I will have to look and see where I have it but until I get back to you - you might want to do a search on google and you should be able to find it.

Sometimes the Artist isn't listed but very rarely, might have something to do with the file. As for selecting the data, it has always worked for me with iTunes. Always use .mp3's format no other format, can't guarentee it will work in other formats.

I have used ITunes and it worked fine on a 2007 Nav unit. However, recently the songs have been fading in and out - some have actually started and then skipped immediately to another song. Anybody else have this problem and how did you solve it?

When using iTunes, what setting are you using when you convert ID3 Tags? I have been using v1.1 but it causes the cd to be burned with folders instead of just mp3's.

There is a detailed step-by-step in the FAQ on how to burn MP3 CDs using iTunes...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1552469063-post22.html