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DebRedZR1 03-13-2012 12:41 PM

GS Tire Wear Update/PS2 Owners your reviews
 
I know there have been a zillion threads on this but want the latest PS2 thoughts from those who have em and been running them :D

The Dealership I go to (that actually knows how to treat Corvettes and people and service them) will replace my front tires under warranty for the premature wear due to the alignment issue but I have to go with the runcraps. I really want to go with the PS2s.

Interested in comments from those who have switched to the PS2 s as there are very limited options .

TIA:cheers:

michaelinmech 03-13-2012 12:55 PM

I have experience with the PS2 ZP's - in a word, Great.

You may well want to, if you have not already, read the threads herein about properly aligning your car for neutral tire wear with your new sneakers !! An alignment to GM specs will again prematurely wear the inside of your front tires.

DebRedZR1 03-13-2012 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by michaelinmech (Post 1580267399)
I have experience with the PS2 ZP's - in a word, Great.

You may well want to, if you have not already, read the threads herein about properly aligning your car for neutral tire wear with your new sneakers !! An alignment to GM specs will again prematurely wear the inside of your front tires.

Thanks Michael :thumbs: I am going to do a refresher on that. Tires won't be going on for a few days. BTW do you have pics of your car any place? It sounds HOT! :smash:

findango 03-13-2012 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by DebRedZR1GSVert (Post 1580267437)
Thanks Michael :thumbs: I am going to do a refresher on that. Tires won't be going on for a few days. BTW do you have pics of your car any place? It sounds HOT! :smash:

Have PS2 ZP's on my '08 Z51... What a great difference. None better IMHO... wearing well.:willy:

Joe Uzzardi 03-13-2012 04:24 PM

I own a 2010 grand Sport conv, i have 7500 miles & my front tires are worn down to thread wear indicators only the middle of the tire, is it possible that they could wear out so soon? the dealer said its not alignment problem, is there anybody else with that problem? thanks,
Joe U
From n.j.

DebRedZR1 03-13-2012 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Uzzardi (Post 1580269469)
I own a 2010 grand Sport conv, i have 7500 miles & my front tires are worn down to thread wear indicators only the middle of the tire, is it possible that they could wear out so soon? the dealer said its not alignment problem, is there anybody else with that problem? thanks,
Joe U
From n.j.

Joe, lots of us :( I am sending you a PM!

jack5hd 03-13-2012 04:40 PM

Joe...........join the club

Kwagnerhvac 03-13-2012 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by DebRedZR1GSVert (Post 1580269615)
Joe, lots of us :( I am sending you a PM!

I am also one of the unlucky ones with center tread gone but at only 5,700 miles. Please PM me if you have any information. :(

DebRedZR1 03-13-2012 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Kwagnerhvac (Post 1580269735)
I am also one of the unlucky ones with center tread gone but at only 5,700 miles. Please PM me if you have any information. :(

I started noticing mine around 5K too. I sent you a PM-hope it helps :thumbs:

Z33 to a C6 03-13-2012 08:46 PM

Please PM me too. I have 8K miles on my 2010 GS. Front and rears are looking pretty bare.

Gearhead Jim 03-13-2012 11:04 PM

We replaced our Z51 Supercar tries with PS2 runflats. We found them to be slightly softer, moderaterly quieter, more forgiving at the limits (more gradual breakaway), significantly better in rain. A better tire in every way i can detect.

Are the improvements worth the cost of turning down a new set of front tires? Only you can decide.

Would the dealer simply give you the new front tires, so you could haul them away? Buy four new PS2's and sell the Supercars?

redzone 03-14-2012 06:47 AM

Take their tires and immediately have all four replaced with the PS2's. You can then recoup ~$400 or so from them on here to help offset the cost of the Michelins.

I absolutely loathe the GY's & have replaced the tires within a month of ownership on every C6 (7) I've had.

DebRedZR1 03-14-2012 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim (Post 1580273282)
We replaced our Z51 Supercar tries with PS2 runflats. We found them to be slightly softer, moderaterly quieter, more forgiving at the limits (more gradual breakaway), significantly better in rain. A better tire in every way i can detect.

Are the improvements worth the cost of turning down a new set of front tires? Only you can decide.

Would the dealer simply give you the new front tires, so you could haul them away? Buy four new PS2's and sell the Supercars?

:thumbs: Now there is an idea. I don't want the run craps. They tried sending it through giving me a credit towards the PS2s on the front but GM over rode that one :toetap:


Originally Posted by redzone (Post 1580274690)
Take their tires and immediately have all four replaced with the PS2's. You can then recoup ~$400 or so from them on here to help offset the cost of the Michelins.

I absolutely loathe the GY's & have replaced the tires within a month of ownership on every C6 (7) I've had.

:iagree::iagree::iagree::ack::ack: This Forum is full of great ideas :D

Torchsport 03-14-2012 08:28 AM

:lurk:

In for the info...
6,000 miles on my GS. Haven't dared look closely at them yet. Will today.

AORoads 03-14-2012 09:25 AM

wow, tires for your '10 GS are expensive per tirerack. I would agree w. both Jim (Gearhead) and Russell (redzone), altho the PS2 ZPs on my '08 (non-GS) don't seem much better in rain than GY Supercar RFT. Still, the PS2 ZP is an excellent tire from what I can tell, even if it's less expensive because of sizes than it will be on your car.

And that idea of getting the free tires, taking them off and selling them to defray the cost of the full set of Michelins is a good one from any perspective.

Depending on wear pattern of your tires, it might be a good time to get a 4 wheel alignment at the same time for street use (I presume).

Good luck with it. :cheers:

JoesC5 03-14-2012 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by DebRedZR1GSVert (Post 1580267270)
I know there have been a zillion threads on this but want the latest PS2 thoughts from those who have em and been running them :D

The Dealership I go to (that actually knows how to treat Corvettes and people and service them) will replace my front tires under warranty for the premature wear due to the alignment issue but I have to go with the runcraps. I really want to go with the PS2s.

Interested in comments from those who have switched to the PS2 s as there are very limited options .

TIA:cheers:

Also take a look at the Bridgestone RE050A run flats. Much cheaper then the PS2 ZP but have a very good tread life. Quieter, and better wet and dry traction the the Goodyears. The Bridgestones seem to ride about the same as the OE Goodyears, to me. Lots of people on this forum have switched to the Bridgestones, with high reviews. Not saying the Bridgestones are any better then the PS2's(or any worse) but when you factor in the costs, the Bridgestones rate very high.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...on-review.html

Joe Uzzardi 03-29-2012 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by DebRedZR1GSVert (Post 1580269615)
Joe, lots of us :( I am sending you a PM!

The dealer is working on it he is waiting for a response from the Rep,
I'll keep you posted, thanks
Joe U

Joe Uzzardi 03-29-2012 03:47 PM

Does anyone know the difference between First Gen F1 Supercar & Second Gen.?

jschindler 03-29-2012 04:01 PM

I switched to the Michelin ZP's on my Z06. I got just over 10,000 miles on the factory Goodyears, and they were really pathetic for the last few thousand miles. When I sold the car I had about 6,000 miles on the Michelins and they looked brand new. They also handled very well, a little quieter and a little better riding. I'm not sure if I ever drove them in the rain, so I can't speak to that.

Driver_WT 03-29-2012 05:41 PM

I am on my third set of PS2's (2005 and then 2008 C6 Coupe). They are good for about 20k miles on my car which i think is great. Better ride, much quieter (and quiet all the way to worn out), much much better in the rain. The one downside is that the initial turn in with the PS2's is not as sharp as on the Goodyears. I have used both PS2 non runflat and the most recent set are ZP runflats - not much difference in initial turn in with either version of the PS2. I fixed it by upgrading my sway bars to JOC sways.

Joe Uzzardi 04-05-2012 05:21 PM

Went to my dealer to complain & got two new tires at no cost hope that helps

Cypher 04-05-2012 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by DebRedZR1GSVert (Post 1580267270)
I know there have been a zillion threads on this but want the latest PS2 thoughts from those who have em and been running them :D

Don’t you have PS2s on the ZR1? So, you’re familiar with them, no?

I love the PS2 ZPs on my Z…much better than the GYs I had on my ’09 coupe; although I can’t make a direct comparison as my ’12 Z06 is a MUCH different car than the ’09 coupe, but I couldn’t imagine running GYs on the Z.

I say go for the PS2s, you can’t go wrong. :thumbs:

DebRedZR1 04-05-2012 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Uzzardi (Post 1580478719)
Went to my dealer to complain & got two new tires at no cost hope that helps

:rock: Good to hear :cheers:


Originally Posted by Cypher (Post 1580479908)
Don’t you have PS2s on the ZR1? So, you’re familiar with them, no?

I love the PS2 ZPs on my Z…much better than the GYs I had on my ’09 coupe; although I can’t make a direct comparison as my ’12 Z06 is a MUCH different car than the ’09 coupe, but I couldn’t imagine running GYs on the Z.

I say go for the PS2s, you can’t go wrong. :thumbs:

LOL, good point:D They wear well, I know that :) The two cars are so different as you well know with your Coupe and Z:yesnod: Interesting to hear people's experiences and the difference with the two tires. I don't see anyone jumping up and down for the runcraps :lol:

bertschb 04-05-2012 07:52 PM

I have 36,000 miles on my PS2's (non run flats). I suspect I'll get another 5,000 before they are shot. Yes, mainly highway miles.

Road Rage 04-05-2012 10:11 PM

When I had my 2007 I went to the PS2's and never looked back. Now with my 2011 GS I installed a set last week after chewing up the rear Goodyear's in 40 minutes at Road Atlanta.

However, one thing I forgot about was the protection lip Michelin puts on the tire. It makes it impossible for me to do my own alignments because our machine (I work for Lexus) doesn't have the special alignment heads needed to fit wheels with no lip to clamp on to. In fact, of the 5 shops I've worked at we never never had them. So I'll have to find a shop that can do it but I have a problem with ANYONE driving my cars let alone even touching them so it's a dilemma I have to deal with.

So if you make the move to PS2's know that all alignment shops won't be equipped for corvette wheels with lip protecting tires installed. Heck when I worked at the Chevy dealer we didn't have them there either. But I never had one come in with PS2's on it. None of this was an issue with the Goodyear's installed.

Thomasmoto 04-05-2012 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Uzzardi (Post 1580269469)
I own a 2010 grand Sport conv, i have 7500 miles & my front tires are worn down to thread wear indicators only the middle of the tire, is it possible that they could wear out so soon? the dealer said its not alignment problem, is there anybody else with that problem? thanks,
Joe U
From n.j.

I actually made it to 14,000 miles on my 2011 GS. Now it's only been on the road 7 months. Just put Michelin Pilot Super Sports on yesterday. So far they are absolutely wonderful.

quickcat 04-06-2012 07:30 AM

Any secrets on why the Goodyears are wearing out in the middle? I measured almost 2 degrees of negative camber on my front wheels (2011 Grand Sport) so I am going to the dealer next week to have them "square it up" so I don't get early wear on the inside edge. Anything I should know before I go?

Matt

phileaglesfan 04-06-2012 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by quickcat (Post 1580483241)
Any secrets on why the Goodyears are wearing out in the middle? I measured almost 2 degrees of negative camber on my front wheels (2011 Grand Sport) so I am going to the dealer next week to have them "square it up" so I don't get early wear on the inside edge. Anything I should know before I go?

Matt


Wearing out in the middle usually means your pressure is too high. There pretty much isn't any other reason. Too much toe in will eat these tires up in a heartbeat.

I read somewhere that GM has new specs for the GS.

New World Matt 04-06-2012 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by DebRedZR1GSVert (Post 1580269615)
Joe, lots of us :( I am sending you a PM!

Hi there !

Could you send me that PM too please ? Less than 6,000 miles on my 2010 GS and the middle of the fronts are worn . I can't believe I need new tires already . I always keep proper pressure and I don't track my car . I'm not happy . :toetap:

Thanks in advance ! ....Matt

omegaboss 09-11-2013 08:06 AM

Just joined the GY worn out tire club at 6000 miles
 
Unfortunately, I just joined the premature tire wear club at 6000 miles. I read the thread on this topic and noticed that some of you were sending out a PM to people with the problem. I am not even sure I know what that is, but if it helps talking with the dealer, could I please get you to send me a copy as well.

I have the same story, no racing, not track days, just putting around town with a couple of short road trips.Also any advice in approaching the dealer would be helpful. Did anyone take copies of the messages from this board with them?

Thank you very much!

plasboy 09-11-2013 08:26 AM

We have a 12GS with 8000 miles on it. Was aligned at 1500 miles. Did not go to the Pfadt specs just partway out. Tires were still wearing on the inside front and rear so had them redone couple of weeks ago. Car feels great on the road but not enough miles to tell anything. Have had no problem with wear on center at 30 psi..


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