C7 Grand Sport Hangs With Porsche GT3 RS
 

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Hot C7 Grand Sport proves Porsche GT3 RS isn’t worth the cash.

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I wouldn't exactly say the Porche isn't worth the money... just look at the build quality thread on this forum... if you said, "based on performance, it isn't worth the money.." that would be more correct.

At any rate, well done GS! :thumbs:

You could also drive the Grand Sport and not feel like it is the end of the world if you crash.

^^^ Very true!

I'd say overall build quality is comparable, unless we're talking about the much (imo) hyped "fit and finish" (or whatever the luxury look and feel is called) of the Porsche. Yes, that's better with the Porsche, but to me that doesn't matter. My $0.2 is that I want a performance car. If I wanted car more concerned with how the inside looks and feels (aka luxury) I'd borrow my wife's BMW.

That being said, I did go for the 2LT package, and I gotta admit, those air cooled seats are going to be nice on a hot summer day... :woohoo:

Lap times are one thing, but driving dynamics are another. Not saying Porsche is better or worse for driving dynamics, but you can't just look at lap times when comparing cars.

Hats off to the GS for turning a great time, though.

Michael

I'm not surprised at the side by side result. Coming from a C6 Z51, the C7 GS is an incredibly solid and balanced car with outstanding braking and acceleration. I see why many of the reviews lean towards saying the GS is not exciting - because it is such a capable sports car. When pushing yourself and the car, you don't feel like you're hanging on for dear life because the car has so much more to give than you are willing/able to demand... I'm blown away that for the price point, GM, Chevy and the Corvette team really outdid themselves this time.

BTW: We don't need no stink'n helmet

Since the RS has a somewhat optimized suspension tuning, and GS mag ride could use the DSC improvements (i.e. GM leaving some on the table), and assuming DSC is good for a mere 1 second, now where are we? ;)

Gt3 RS has resale over it and that's about it

I'd love to compare the GT3/RS lap...cause that was some pretty sloppy driving. He was all over the place.

It's great to see the Grand Sport is hanging well with what is considered the gold standard with the RS.

:iagree:

I would say head to head on a track is one thing, but I can also tell you that Porsche nuts would never cross shop an RS and Grand Sport. The RS is for guys with stupid money and want the best Porsche has to offer.

A good 911 driver can extract every ounce from that car, I have done hot laps against GT3's at Road America and I couldn't keep up with them. They are confidence inspiring machines. I have been a track instructor and doing DE's for upwards of 15 years, don't bet against the GT3 RS.

Well said and it appears that every comparison ends up how much the Porsche costs and bang for he buck. More Corvette owners should experience what Porsche is all about and the owners loyalty it has created.

^ Of course price is dependent. It may be really, really good, but that's crazy money for a toy.
I personally have NO qualms with my GS/Z07. Information like this just makes it that much sweeter.

YES it is great bang for the money!

I was in the same camp and even despised Porsches...until I bought one for my girlfriend. Then I bought one for myself because I don't look good in purple. Lap times become irrelevant, and you don't really understand until you drive one.

The fact that the GS/Z07 runs comparable track times for less than $70K buy price...decide for yourself. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...9fa0ef2da.jpeg

As a side note
 

I've checked out some Porsches lately and the orangepeel was much worse than my GS. ;)

I wouldn't say the RS is not "worth the cash". There is more to a car than lap times. If you were really loaded, why not have a RS in the stable? It is a better car. At that price differential it sure the hell better be. That said, the C7 is an excellent car and owes an apology to no one. In the past the bang for the buck comment also included accepting some unfortunate compromises and poor materials. Now, with the C7 you still get the bang for the buck, but now you don't have to make apologies for it. An excellent balance between performance, materials, quality, and cost.

The Porsche has to race around the track with a big complex motor hanging of it's back axle. Somehow it competes and wins with this drawback. The Vette has huge torque without having to wait for it with turbos or select cam RPM ranges.
When it comes to value per dollar there's no question the C7/GS can't be beat against ANY sports car out there. There are no real reasons to look any where else for this level of sports car, which is at it's pinnacle in my opinion.

It is very refreshing to know others on the Forum have had the same experience and understand how great German engineering kept improving their Brand. This thread was created for the Haters to vent their frustrations trying to justify something that is meaningless. I did see one in purple and the paint was equal to Aston Martin quality.

No venting, no frustrations and no hating, just personal observations. Remember this IS a Corvette Forum. ;)

The GS certainly looks like a handful, but great time nonetheless. I wonder how many laps it could keep up at that pace. The two cars are nearly opposites and do everything in different ways - it doesn't make either better or worse.

^ It doesn't drive like that at all. It's very, very controlled. That guy was driving it very sloppy. Hence my earlier post. He probably lost .4 or more seconds.

It's basically 400% more expensive...a.k.a., you can own around 4 GS for the price of 1 of the Porsches, more if you count some RS's going for upwards of 500k around internet...that is bonkers.
The fact that a few people basically said...Lap Times "aren't that important"...is bonkers.
...and just a personal opinion, the overall styling of the GS spanks the Porsche.
If the GS was only within 4-5 seconds of the Porsche it would still be amazing

Oh, I agree with the above...that guy drove like crap. A smoother driver and it would have run at least a second quicker, which would have been faster than the Porsche....which is bonkers.

This story backs up these results...VIR lap within .4 secs of a McLaren 570S and a Porsche GT3 RS and 17 Grand Sport. McLaren has 102 HP and about 250lbs advantage...and 185k price tag. There is no doubt the GS is not to be taken lightly. The Porsche did a 2:47.0, Grand Sport 2:47.1 and McLaren 2:47.4... Just 1/10th of a second slower than the Porsche and 3/10ths faster than the McLaren...2017 Acura NSX at 160k...2:50.2, 3.1 seconds slower...Shelby GT350-R 2:51.8, BMW M4 GTS, 135k came in at 2:52.9...Just sayin... Honorable Mention...POS 2017 Audi R8 V-10 Plus at 190k did a 2:56.1 at 610hp
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...p-2016-feature

Here move over, I'll drive 'em both and get back to you...

Last time I checked, races are determined by times.
When judging Track Performance, numbers are all that matter.
Not just lap times; it INCLUDES price.
And that is where the C7 sweeps the grid.
Nothing comes close to its Track Performance/$$$ ratio.


When judging Streetability, it becomes somewhat subjective.
From what I have read, the RS is lacking in street manners and is more difficult to live with as a DD compared to the C7.

^ Typically It is sans stereo, AC & ...like the one used in the LL.

Whatever floats a guy's boat I guess, but for the amount of $$$ you showed a few posts back I would NEVER look at an RS when McLarens, Ferraris, etc. can be had for similar prices.;)