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BAMvette 05-11-2010 08:55 AM

Zaino and Base Coat only paint?
 
Hi:

I have an '81 that was built at the St. Louis plant. As such it received Base Coat only paint. Doesn't have a clear coat.

Any idea which Zaino product might be most appropriate? AIO? Z5 or Z2?

None? Wax instead? :willy:

Thanks! :D

TOGWT 05-11-2010 09:17 AM

AIO, Z-3 +ZFX

Z-3™ Show Car Polish (Single Stage paint)

To meet the needs of standard single stage paints, which tend to oxidize, shrink and lose their resiliency faster, it also includes a custom blend of emulsifiers; which gently condition and maintain your car's paint.

Contains state-of-the-art optical enhancers and gloss additives that bring out the true colour and clarity of your paint. To enhance protection, Z-3 contains Ultra-Gard™ ultra violet (UV) protection, which offers the ultimate protection against fading and shrinking. Also contains a special flex-additive that keeps your car's paint resilient and elastic. The flex-additive also restores the gloss on rubber and plastic painted parts, which have a tendency to fade and lose gloss faster than the rest of the vehicle. Zaino website

BAMvette 05-11-2010 10:46 AM

:cool:

Thanks!

JoshVette 05-11-2010 12:54 PM

I know Z3 is designed for SS paint, but I've used Z5 plenty of times on SS paint and it seems to hold up rather well also.

TOGWT just listed the differences, but after reading them I'm still not quite sure what the difference is between Z3 and Z5.

I would definitely polish it first or at least use the ZAIO as SS paint has a tendency to fade/oxidize very quickly.

Josh

capevettes 05-11-2010 03:30 PM

My 61 is a single stage Urethane and I use all the Zaino products and it looks great. Z2, Z5, AIO, Clear Sealant, Z6 and Z8. I can't imagine it looking any better. Shines as well as my BC/CC cars.

TOGWT 05-12-2010 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by JoshVette (Post 1574038277)
I know Z3 is designed for SS paint, but I've used Z5 plenty of times on SS paint and it seems to hold up rather well also.

TOGWT just listed the differences, but after reading them I'm still not quite sure what the difference is between Z3 and Z5.

I would definitely polish it first or at least use the ZAIO as SS paint has a tendency to fade/oxidize very quickly.

Josh

I think its the emulsifiers used to 'condition' the paint ( I always used to use oil-based waxes / polishes for single stage paint and nitrocellulose Lacquer)

hcvone 05-12-2010 06:39 AM

If you are going to let your 81' sit out in the sun a lot then Z-3 would be a good choice, it contains additives that will retard oxidation, if your car is only going to shows or events, or is more a garage queen I would use Z-2 or Z-5, have many customers that use Z-2 or Z-5 on their single stage paint because their cars are mostly garaged. :)

BAMvette 05-12-2010 08:52 AM

Thanks for the replies guys!

I'd also like to polish the car first, as suggested above.

It's in good condition already, but in the fluorescent light in my garage I ca see that it needs some care.

I have a PC7424 and some Zaino Fusion. Anyone see any problems with this approach?

By the way.....this paint, I'm told is about 3 years old.

Thanks!

JoshVette 05-12-2010 09:05 AM

So its' SS paint but new??

I don't see any problems with that approach but it really depends on the condition of the swirls, if you can see them with your florescent garage lighting then I'm betting it's a little worse then you think.

Zaino ZPC (fuzion) is an ok product, but really designed more as a paint cleaner and not so much as a swirl remover, although it can remove some light swirling, just not the best at it IMO.

If you're wanting more paint correction products to be used with a DA, I would try some Meg's 105, 205, or Menzerna SIP to remove swirls.

Josh

BAMvette 05-12-2010 11:44 AM

I'm assuming it's SS, as original. How do I tell? My C5 has a depth to it that the C3 does't. Any other way to tell if SS or BC/CC? :bigears

Does it even matter as far as polishing technique and materials using the PC?

blackmachdown 05-12-2010 12:51 PM

when you wax or polish your car if the pad turns the color of the car then you have a single stage paintjob

TOGWT 05-13-2010 04:40 AM

When you use an abrasive product (polish) on a vehicle with single stage paint, you will notice paint transfer on your pads; this paint system is “softer” than conventional paint systems and tends to oxidize more readily. When polishing or wet-sanding use caution because if you're not careful you could make an irreversible mistake that will require re-painting.IMO ss paint has a richer gloss than a cc finish

BAMvette 05-18-2010 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by TOGWT (Post 1574057933)
this paint system is “softer” than conventional paint systems and tends to oxidize more readily. When polishing or wet-sanding use caution because if you're not careful you could make an irreversible mistake that will require re-painting.IMO ss paint has a richer gloss than a cc finish

Do you think I should polish it by hand, rather than with the PC?

I've noticed tonight that if I apply a bit of elbow-grease, I can eliminate the scratches and swirls by hand. :leaving:


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