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johnnymo63 07-11-2010 06:45 PM

C4 Wheel Reference Guide
 
Here's what I believe are the correct nicknames and year info for C4 Vette wheels.
If anything is incorrect or you have anything to add, please do. I want this to be 100% correct. (you know...for the nubes) :leaving:

84-85= "Turbines"

86-87= "Turbines"

88 16" base wheel= "Razors" (my choice, since apparently, no name exists)

88-89 17"= "Salad Shooters" or "Quisenarts"

88 "35th Anniversary Edition"
http://image.vetteweb.com/f/12559216...ustom_rims.jpg

90= "Salad Shooters" or "Quisenarts"
http://www.s10forum.com/classifieds/...S7_jOCg_12.jpg

88-91 "Dymags" (Available on Callaway Edition)
http://www.callawayownersgroup.com/M...6/100_0129.JPG

91-92= "Sawblades" (painted)
http://www.corvsport.com/Corvette/C4...tte_Wheels.jpg

93-96= "Sawblades" (machine-faced)

94-96= "ZR-1s" or "A-molds" or "5-Spoke"
http://www.zip-corvette.com/_Images/Blobs/H-559A.JPG

96 only= black "GrandSports"
http://www.zip-corvette.com/_Images%...al%5CH-713.JPG

Blue 92 07-11-2010 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by johnnymo63 (Post 1574664090)
Here's what I believe are the correct nicknames and year info for C4 Vette wheels.
If anything is incorrect or you have anything to add, please do. I want this to be 100% correct. (you know...for the nubes) :leaving:

90-96= "ZR-1s" or "A-molds"
http://www.zip-corvette.com/_Images/Blobs/H-559A.JPG

I think you'll find the ZR-1 went to these in 94. Prior to that same as the base wheels with ZR-1 11" width in the rear.

c4cruiser 07-11-2010 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by johnnymo63 (Post 1574664090)
Here's what I believe are the correct nicknames and year info for C4 Vette wheels.
If anything is incorrect or you have anything to add, please do. I want this to be 100% correct. (you know...for the nubes) :leaving:

88-89 16" optional wheel= ???
http://www.tabercorvetteparts.com/pa...es/wheel88.jpg

Actually, these are the base or standard 1988 wheels. The 17" wheel came with the Z51 and Z52 suspension options.

The ZR1- 5-spoke wheel was also available on the '96 Collector's Edition. "A-Mold" is the name of the company that supplied these types of wheels to GM.

rodj 07-11-2010 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Blue 92 (Post 1574664149)
I think you'll find the ZR-1 went to these in 94.

http://www.joby.se/corvette/div/corvette_wheels/

jhammons01 07-11-2010 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by johnnymo63 (Post 1574664090)

AKA, boat anchors......(okay okay...just with me.....)

PLRX 07-11-2010 11:56 PM

here we go:D

the Collector Edition also came with 5 spoke wheels.

Not all ZR1 came with 5 spoke wheels.

the ZR1 36mm off set sawblade
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/corv...m/P9090028.JPG

This thread is going

ZR-71 07-12-2010 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by rodj (Post 1574665185)

Interesting. The red 1990 ZR-1 shown is a 'vert, which was never sold. Also the red 1989 ZR-1 was pre-production with 11" wheels which were also not sold

johnnymo63 07-12-2010 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by rodj (Post 1574665185)

Thanks for the link. Nice to see year by year on the cars. :yesnod:

Originally Posted by ZR-71 (Post 1574667414)
Interesting. The red 1990 ZR-1 shown is a 'vert, which was never sold. Also the red 1989 ZR-1 was pre-production with 11" wheels which were also not sold

Also interesting is this guy's math skills. The back-spacing conversion is listed the same in inches for 36 and 56mm??? :crazy:

Copied [1989 (pre production zr1)
front 17"x9.5" 56mm (7.4" backspacing)
Goodyear Gatorbacks, P275/40ZR-17
rear 17"x11" 36mm (7.4" backspacing)
Goodyear Gatorbacks, P315/35ZR-17]

WVZR-1 07-12-2010 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by johnnymo63 (Post 1574667800)
Thanks for the link. Nice to see year by year on the cars. :yesnod:

Also interesting is this guy's math skills. The back-spacing conversion is listed the same in inches for 36 and 56mm??? :crazy:

Copied [1989 (pre production zr1)
front 17"x9.5" 56mm (7.4" backspacing)
Goodyear Gatorbacks, P275/40ZR-17
rear 17"x11" 36mm (7.4" backspacing)
Goodyear Gatorbacks, P315/35ZR-17]

Regarding your "copied" insert!

Perhaps it's maybe your lack of "math skills"! I'd say Joby's are "correct"! There's perhaps a mm or 2 difference in the back spacing of the wheels he's referred to using a generally accepted rim flange width of +1.

7.4" rounding to 10th's of an inch I'd say is the acceptable reference when comparing wheels when using mathematical formulas.

Joby's C4 wheel information is at a quick look pretty complete and quite informative.

j-vette 07-12-2010 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by jhammons01 (Post 1574667182)
AKA, boat anchors

:lol:

johnnymo63 07-12-2010 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by WVZR-1 (Post 1574668067)
Regarding your "copied" insert!

Perhaps it's maybe your lack of "math skills"! I'd say Joby's are "correct"! There's perhaps a mm or 2 difference in the back spacing of the wheels he's referred to using a generally accepted rim flange width of +1.

7.4" rounding to 10th's of an inch I'd say is the acceptable reference when comparing wheels when using mathematical formulas.

Joby's C4 wheel information is at a quick look pretty complete and quite informative.

What are the 56mm and 36mm referring to if it's not the back-spacing?

WVZR-1 07-12-2010 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by johnnymo63 (Post 1574671443)
What are the 56mm and 36mm referring to if it's not the back-spacing?

The dimension 56mm and 36mm are "offset" specifications and is the relationship of the wheel "mounting face" to the exact center of the wheel. It's a specification that is generally reserved for advertising (for the masses) but is a critical specification used for manufacturing and engineering. Offset usually is considered a specification that is difficult for the "guy on the street" to walk up to a wheel and measure!

Back-spacing is a simple dimension that requires a straight-edge a few inches longer than the diameter of the wheel and a tape measure. It's a dimension that can very easily determine if a wheel is a fit to the wheel-house, suspension components etc!

I'll leave it to you to "google" for the balance of the wheel dimension education! There are simple mathematical formulas for calculating offset from back-spacing and vice-versa but there are also a substantial number of erroneous formulas on the Internet so you'll need a wheel, a tape-measure, a straight-edge, pencil, paper and depending on your math skills maybe a calculator to become a wheel dimensioning expert.

Joby's dimensions are correct, you could measure a set of yours and use his guide to check your work/math.

socalman 07-12-2010 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by johnnymo63 (Post 1574671443)
What are the 56mm and 36mm referring to if it's not the back-spacing?

I'll take a stab at it.

Offset is away from center. 9-1/2" wheel, center is 4-3/4".

Add 56mm (or 2-1/4") and you get 7".

Add the 1/2" rim lip, you have 7.5" backspace.

If you take that same offset (56mm) and run it on an 11" wheel, the 'backspace' is not the same as the 9-1/2" wheel.

center of 11" = 5-1/2"

add 56mm (2-1/4") = 7-3/4"

add 1/2" lip = 8.25"

Bronze85 07-12-2010 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by jhammons01 (Post 1574667182)
AKA, boat anchors......(okay okay...just with me.....)

:nono:

WVZR-1 07-12-2010 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by socalman (Post 1574676893)
I'll take a stab at it.

Offset is away from center. 9-1/2" wheel, center is 4-3/4".

Add 56mm (or 2-1/4") and you get 7".

Add the 1/2" rim lip, you have 7.5" backspace.

If you take that same offset (56mm) and run it on an 11" wheel, the 'backspace' is not the same as the 9-1/2" wheel.

center of 11" = 5-1/2"

add 56mm (2-1/4") = 7-3/4"

add 1/2" lip = 8.25"

Dan,

In a "round-about" way you've got it and if you deduct the 20mm (56 - 36) from your 8.25 result ( for the 11") you're pretty close and remember the 7.4 is a rounded #! You've certainly got at least the idea!!

Offset and back-spacing are both calculated using "total-wheel width" and the +1 I referred to in my first post is 1" + the advertised width. Actual offset is usually a few mm different than advertised just because of the different width rim flanges!

johnnymo63 07-13-2010 02:35 AM

Thanks for the explanations, guys. I completely understand now.
I was thinking back-spacing and offset were the same thing.
My apologies to Joby.
See, you learn something every day. :D

(Buy the wa, mi math skils is gooder then mi Inglish skils is)

Aurora40 07-13-2010 08:19 PM

You may want to add Dymags. I believe they were standard with RPO B2K from '88-91 ('87 had stock wheels, though you could buy 16" Dymags from Callaway as an option).

Swedish Hot Rod 07-14-2010 01:21 PM

Nice post. JoBy´s webpage about C4 wheels has been mentioned earlier in this post.

Here in Sweden Joby is regarded as "a man who knows what he is talking about..."

azrocketman 07-14-2010 02:06 PM

Does not change the names but 1984-1985 16" wheels had black centers, 1986 16 " wheels had bare aluminum centers, and 1987 16" wheels had gray centers.

Steve

Blackhole 07-14-2010 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by jhammons01 (Post 1574667182)
AKA, boat anchors......(okay okay...just with me.....)

Or "outboard disc brake" style..... I think I'll have mine drilled and slotted. :rofl:


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