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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Here's what I believe are the correct nicknames and year info for C4 Vette wheels.
If anything is incorrect or you have anything to add, please do. I want this to be 100% correct. (you know...for the nubes)

84-85= "Turbines"

86-87= "Turbines"

88 16" base wheel= "Razors" (my choice, since apparently, no name exists)

88-89 17"= "Salad Shooters" or "Quisenarts"

88 "35th Anniversary Edition"


90= "Salad Shooters" or "Quisenarts"


88-91 "Dymags" (Available on Callaway Edition)


91-92= "Sawblades" (painted)


93-96= "Sawblades" (machine-faced)

94-96= "ZR-1s" or "A-molds" or "5-Spoke"


96 only= black "GrandSports"

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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnymo63
Here's what I believe are the correct nicknames and year info for C4 Vette wheels.
If anything is incorrect or you have anything to add, please do. I want this to be 100% correct. (you know...for the nubes)

90-96= "ZR-1s" or "A-molds"

I think you'll find the ZR-1 went to these in 94. Prior to that same as the base wheels with ZR-1 11" width in the rear.
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnymo63
Here's what I believe are the correct nicknames and year info for C4 Vette wheels.
If anything is incorrect or you have anything to add, please do. I want this to be 100% correct. (you know...for the nubes)

88-89 16" optional wheel= ???

Actually, these are the base or standard 1988 wheels. The 17" wheel came with the Z51 and Z52 suspension options.

The ZR1- 5-spoke wheel was also available on the '96 Collector's Edition. "A-Mold" is the name of the company that supplied these types of wheels to GM.

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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue 92
I think you'll find the ZR-1 went to these in 94.
http://www.joby.se/corvette/div/corvette_wheels/
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnymo63
84-87= "Turbines"
AKA, boat anchors......(okay okay...just with me.....)
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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here we go

the Collector Edition also came with 5 spoke wheels.

Not all ZR1 came with 5 spoke wheels.

the ZR1 36mm off set sawblade


This thread is going
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 12:21 AM
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Interesting. The red 1990 ZR-1 shown is a 'vert, which was never sold. Also the red 1989 ZR-1 was pre-production with 11" wheels which were also not sold
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Thanks for the link. Nice to see year by year on the cars.
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Interesting. The red 1990 ZR-1 shown is a 'vert, which was never sold. Also the red 1989 ZR-1 was pre-production with 11" wheels which were also not sold
Also interesting is this guy's math skills. The back-spacing conversion is listed the same in inches for 36 and 56mm???

Copied [1989 (pre production zr1)
front 17"x9.5" 56mm (7.4" backspacing)
Goodyear Gatorbacks, P275/40ZR-17
rear 17"x11" 36mm (7.4" backspacing)
Goodyear Gatorbacks, P315/35ZR-17]

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Originally Posted by johnnymo63
Thanks for the link. Nice to see year by year on the cars.

Also interesting is this guy's math skills. The back-spacing conversion is listed the same in inches for 36 and 56mm???

Copied [1989 (pre production zr1)
front 17"x9.5" 56mm (7.4" backspacing)
Goodyear Gatorbacks, P275/40ZR-17
rear 17"x11" 36mm (7.4" backspacing)
Goodyear Gatorbacks, P315/35ZR-17]
Regarding your "copied" insert!

Perhaps it's maybe your lack of "math skills"! I'd say Joby's are "correct"! There's perhaps a mm or 2 difference in the back spacing of the wheels he's referred to using a generally accepted rim flange width of +1.

7.4" rounding to 10th's of an inch I'd say is the acceptable reference when comparing wheels when using mathematical formulas.

Joby's C4 wheel information is at a quick look pretty complete and quite informative.

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AKA, boat anchors
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
Regarding your "copied" insert!

Perhaps it's maybe your lack of "math skills"! I'd say Joby's are "correct"! There's perhaps a mm or 2 difference in the back spacing of the wheels he's referred to using a generally accepted rim flange width of +1.

7.4" rounding to 10th's of an inch I'd say is the acceptable reference when comparing wheels when using mathematical formulas.

Joby's C4 wheel information is at a quick look pretty complete and quite informative.
What are the 56mm and 36mm referring to if it's not the back-spacing?
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Originally Posted by johnnymo63
What are the 56mm and 36mm referring to if it's not the back-spacing?
The dimension 56mm and 36mm are "offset" specifications and is the relationship of the wheel "mounting face" to the exact center of the wheel. It's a specification that is generally reserved for advertising (for the masses) but is a critical specification used for manufacturing and engineering. Offset usually is considered a specification that is difficult for the "guy on the street" to walk up to a wheel and measure!

Back-spacing is a simple dimension that requires a straight-edge a few inches longer than the diameter of the wheel and a tape measure. It's a dimension that can very easily determine if a wheel is a fit to the wheel-house, suspension components etc!

I'll leave it to you to "google" for the balance of the wheel dimension education! There are simple mathematical formulas for calculating offset from back-spacing and vice-versa but there are also a substantial number of erroneous formulas on the Internet so you'll need a wheel, a tape-measure, a straight-edge, pencil, paper and depending on your math skills maybe a calculator to become a wheel dimensioning expert.

Joby's dimensions are correct, you could measure a set of yours and use his guide to check your work/math.
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Originally Posted by johnnymo63
What are the 56mm and 36mm referring to if it's not the back-spacing?
I'll take a stab at it.

Offset is away from center. 9-1/2" wheel, center is 4-3/4".

Add 56mm (or 2-1/4") and you get 7".

Add the 1/2" rim lip, you have 7.5" backspace.

If you take that same offset (56mm) and run it on an 11" wheel, the 'backspace' is not the same as the 9-1/2" wheel.

center of 11" = 5-1/2"

add 56mm (2-1/4") = 7-3/4"

add 1/2" lip = 8.25"
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AKA, boat anchors......(okay okay...just with me.....)
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Originally Posted by socalman
I'll take a stab at it.

Offset is away from center. 9-1/2" wheel, center is 4-3/4".

Add 56mm (or 2-1/4") and you get 7".

Add the 1/2" rim lip, you have 7.5" backspace.

If you take that same offset (56mm) and run it on an 11" wheel, the 'backspace' is not the same as the 9-1/2" wheel.

center of 11" = 5-1/2"

add 56mm (2-1/4") = 7-3/4"

add 1/2" lip = 8.25"
Dan,

In a "round-about" way you've got it and if you deduct the 20mm (56 - 36) from your 8.25 result ( for the 11") you're pretty close and remember the 7.4 is a rounded #! You've certainly got at least the idea!!

Offset and back-spacing are both calculated using "total-wheel width" and the +1 I referred to in my first post is 1" + the advertised width. Actual offset is usually a few mm different than advertised just because of the different width rim flanges!
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Thanks for the explanations, guys. I completely understand now.
I was thinking back-spacing and offset were the same thing.
My apologies to Joby.
See, you learn something every day.

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You may want to add Dymags. I believe they were standard with RPO B2K from '88-91 ('87 had stock wheels, though you could buy 16" Dymags from Callaway as an option).
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Nice post. JoBy´s webpage about C4 wheels has been mentioned earlier in this post.

Here in Sweden Joby is regarded as "a man who knows what he is talking about..."
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Does not change the names but 1984-1985 16" wheels had black centers, 1986 16 " wheels had bare aluminum centers, and 1987 16" wheels had gray centers.

Steve

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AKA, boat anchors......(okay okay...just with me.....)
Or "outboard disc brake" style..... I think I'll have mine drilled and slotted.
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