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forman 09-09-2010 08:54 PM

1970 headlight washer question
 
do you really need them ,,what exactly do they do ,,when i got my car 2 months ago i went though the washer system and my car only has the 3 output on the washer motor anyway it should have had the 5 to include the headlight washer i could change it back for the 8.95 5 outlet to include the headlight washer ,,do they really work ,I am just thinking they would cool the bulb down and crack my t-3s what do you think :willy::willy:

...Roger... 09-09-2010 09:06 PM

If your not getting the car judged I would stay with the 3 port.

forman 09-09-2010 09:10 PM

No the car wont be judged ,,but do they really work

...Roger... 09-09-2010 09:24 PM

They do squirt the low beam from top and bottom but I don't know if they are good at actually cleaning.

7T1vette 09-10-2010 12:47 AM

The system was designed so that the headlights would get 'sprayed' whenever the windshield washers were used. This assumes that the headlights are getting the same level of filth that the windshield is seeing. Did they work? Well, they got wet...but there wasn't anything wiping them off when wet (as in the case of the wipers).

I don't think they ever worked that well. And they certainly weren't "necessary"...otherwise they wouldn't have ditched that idea in late 1970. If you were having the car judged, it would be good to have the right equipment that came with the car--whether you actually use it or not. In the case of my '71, it has the 5-port washer, most of the hoses for that system [some are cut short because they were never hooked up], and the headlight bezels with the "D" holes in them. But, no nozzles were ever installed at the factory: a case of GM 'wasting' money on hardware so they wouldn't have to make any engineering changes to the build sheets. :rolleyes:

Tom454 09-10-2010 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by forman (Post 1575276847)
....i could change it back for the 8.95 5 outlet to include the headlight washer ,..... :willy::willy:


Who has/sells the 5 port kit?

dennis 09-10-2010 02:03 PM

:lol::D


Originally Posted by Tom454 (Post 1575282049)
Who has/sells the 5 port kit?


4 or 5 years ago I ran into a guy who was repop'ing the 5 port washer pump. I had an original with me and we compared them. His are right on but the white plastic is "whiter" than the originals. http://www.melroset-tops.com/melrose_catalog.pdf p F19

Pics of the originals......
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port006.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port005.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port003.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port001.jpg

The hose setup you can get from Dr Rebuild,(best quality), and the wahers are on fleese-bay often(Don't think they're repop'd)

The problem piece is the anti siphon valves mounted where the upper and lower washer hoses meet and connect to the long feed from the pump.( BTW, to add to the confussion the quirters also have different mounting points on the HL bezels). Hard to find.In theory were supposed to keep the fluid from running out when the headlights went down. :lol:

70Donnybrooke 09-10-2010 06:34 PM

http://www.zip-corvette.com/ProductD...GR-SR&CTitle=&

This is much cheaper than the original one I got years ago.

dennis 09-10-2010 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by 70Donnybrooke (Post 1575286357)
http://www.zip-corvette.com/ProductD...GR-SR&CTitle=&

This is much cheaper than the original one I got years ago.

They all come from melrose. Price has gone up some from when he started with them. BTW I sold my original for 500.00 a couple of years ago

70Donnybrooke 09-10-2010 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by dennis (Post 1575286612)
They all come from melrose. Price has gone up some from when he started with them. BTW I sold my original for 500.00 a couple of years ago

I bought mine for 400.

...Roger... 09-10-2010 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by dennis (Post 1575286612)
They all come from melrose. Price has gone up some from when he started with them. BTW I sold my original for 500.00 a couple of years ago


Originally Posted by 70Donnybrooke (Post 1575286858)
I bought mine for 400.

Incredible :eek:

Solid LT1 09-12-2010 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by dennis (Post 1575283425)
:lol::D

4 or 5 years ago I ran into a guy who was repop'ing the 5 port washer pump. I had an original with me and we compared them. His are right on but the white plastic is "whiter" than the originals. http://www.melroset-tops.com/melrose_catalog.pdf p F19

Pics of the originals......
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port006.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port005.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port003.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port001.jpg

The hose setup you can get from Dr Rebuild,(best quality), and the wahers are on fleese-bay often(Don't think they're repop'd)

The problem piece is the anti siphon valves mounted where the upper and lower washer hoses meet and connect to the long feed from the pump.( BTW, to add to the confussion the quirters also have different mounting points on the HL bezels). Hard to find.In theory were supposed to keep the fluid from running out when the headlights went down. :lol:

Squirter nozzles are same ones as used on 1969 Rallysport Camaro so they can be bought reproduction. I broke my 5 port pump:( while restoring my 70 Vette and bought the 5 port reproduction pump. The repro pump is definatlety more whiter that the original but, original was discolored from age. Still havent plumbed the headlamp nozzles on my Vette maybe this winter so they can spray crap all over the Vette when I try to wash windshield one day:lol:

forman 09-12-2010 01:10 AM

I was thinking I would hook them up just to shoot people walking in the crosswalks

7T1vette 09-12-2010 04:56 AM

Sure, just turn 'em around. Then when somebody crosses the street, in front of your stopped car, fire 'em up. :toetap:

Tom454 09-13-2010 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by forman (Post 1575276847)
do you really need them ,,what exactly do they do ,,when i got my car 2 months ago i went though the washer system and my car only has the 3 output on the washer motor anyway it should have had the 5 to include the headlight washer i could change it back for the 8.95 5 outlet to include the headlight washer ,,do they really work ,I am just thinking they would cool the bulb down and crack my t-3s what do you think :willy::willy:

Okay.... let's try again... where can you buy the KIT (not the pump) for $8.95?

...Roger... 09-13-2010 08:51 AM

Some of the aftermarket repair kits come with both the 3 port and 5 port outlets. Probably nothing you would want to look correct.

egon48 10-15-2013 06:17 PM

Mine has a little trico pump just for the headlight washers???

Alan 71 10-15-2013 06:56 PM

Hi e48,
What year is your car?
I believe 69 cars had a 3 port pump for the windshield washer and a separate 2 port valve for the headlight washers was mounted to the pump with a small bracket.
Then in 70, the five port pump was used, combining both functions.
Regards,
Alan

Solid LT1 10-15-2013 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by dennis (Post 1575283425)
:lol::D

4 or 5 years ago I ran into a guy who was repop'ing the 5 port washer pump. I had an original with me and we compared them. His are right on but the white plastic is "whiter" than the originals. http://www.melroset-tops.com/melrose_catalog.pdf p F19

Pics of the originals......
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port006.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port005.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port003.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...e/5port001.jpg

The hose setup you can get from Dr Rebuild,(best quality), and the wahers are on fleese-bay often(Don't think they're repop'd)


The problem piece is the anti siphon valves mounted where the upper and lower washer hoses meet and connect to the long feed from the pump.( BTW, to add to the confussion the quirters also have different mounting points on the HL bezels). Hard to find.In theory were supposed to keep the fluid from running out when the headlights went down. :lol:

Washers are same as 1969 Camaro Rally Sport headlamp washers they are reproduced:thumbs:

Washers will destroy any work done on detailing in 1-2 seconds flat as front end is sprayed with water might want to think about not hooking them up. I paid $250 for correct headlamp bezels for my wife's 70 LT-1 and still havent finished running hoses to washers.

You can clean out blocked nozzles with a welding tip cleaner or small drill bit.

Solid LT1 10-15-2013 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Alan 71 (Post 1585184457)
Hi e48,
What year is your car?
I believe 69 cars had a 3 port pump for the windshield washer and a separate 2 port valve for the headlight washers was mounted to the pump with a small bracket.
Then in 70, the five port pump was used, combining both functions.
Regards,
Alan

Alan once again perfect answer, just like your Vette:thumbs:

Washer pump is same as 1969 Camaro Rally Sport, had same secondary distribution system as the 69 Corvette. EXACT SAME PUMP!


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