no start help here
new battery
when turn key I can hear the starter motor go click. but the engine not turning. pleae help |
Dirty /worn/bad connections on batt cables
Starter solenoid contacts worn ( common ) |
Originally Posted by rodj
(Post 1579277863)
Dirty /worn/bad connections on batt cables
Starter solenoid contacts worn ( common ) is there any DIY for this??? |
You say new battery;
did this problem happen after you changed the battery or has battery been in car for a while? are the cables tight and clean after battery replaced |
Originally Posted by rodj
(Post 1579277942)
You say new battery;
did this problem happen after you changed the battery or has battery been in car for a while? are the cables tight and clean after battery replaced since this battery was 630 amp. and the minimun recomendation for the 1986 vette is 700 amps. i asume that the battery was the problem. so today I get new battery. with 850 amp. install about 2 hour ago.and same thing. just here the clcik. the cables look clean on the battery. dont know in the other end.. this cables most be old specialy the positive cable. dont know for sure since i got the car with those cables. |
Originally Posted by hitmanpty
(Post 1579278023)
the cables look clean on the battery. dont know in the other end.. this cables most be old specialy the positive cable.
Originally Posted by hitmanpty
(Post 1579278023)
so today I get new battery. with 850 amp. install about 2 hour ago.and same thing. just here the clcik.
With car out of gear and secured run a wire from starter solenoid terminal ( purple wire ) to batt POS terminal Connect wire at starter end 1st and touch other end on Pos terminal Does same clicking occur? If so ,is starter problem. If starter works properly , you have a problem with wiring from key to starter |
After you do all these suggestions and check the cables, I will bet you will need a starter. The starter will come with the solonoid which might be the core of the problem.
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Originally Posted by rodj
(Post 1579278816)
So you need to check the ends of the two main cables before continuing further
So if the cables check out ,you need to consider that starter is worn out. With car out of gear and secured run a wire from starter solenoid terminal ( purple wire ) to batt POS terminal Connect wire at starter end 1st and touch other end on Pos terminal Does same clicking occur? If so ,is starter problem. If starter works properly , you have a problem with wiring from key to starter first the car start this way with out a problem, but as the time past it become more dificult to start, at the end, I push the buttom I only hear the clcik. that is the main reason I get a new battery. them I remove the push bottom cable, now I use the key for start. I guest if before a wire was connected direct to battery and the problem was the same. them the problem is the starter. right???? |
Originally Posted by pcolt94
(Post 1579278843)
After you do all these suggestions and check the cables, I will bet you will need a starter. The starter will come with the solonoid which might be the core of the problem.
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If you can hear the solenoid click, it is ok. At the end of the solenoid stroke, two large copper contacts are forced together that switch current to the starter motor. These contacts get black and pitted and then don't make a low enough resistance connection to allow enough starter motor current to allow for cranking. I measured the starter current on my 87 this past Spring at 240 amps. Those contacts are replaceable and a lot cheaper than another starter motor. One experiment you can do is to continue hitting crank over and over and the banging of these contacts eventually makes a good connection and the starter motor will crank. I had this problem after work 2 yrs ago and that is what got me home.
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I would just change the starter and be done with it.
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if I get this solenoid. (please see link) will this fix my problem. or I just have to clean some contact inside the starter???????
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....5Z5Z50000050F# |
Originally Posted by 383vett
(Post 1579285062)
I would just change the starter and be done with it.
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this sounds like the starter solenoid has failed. You will need to disconnect the battery, disconnect the wires at the starter then drop the starter down from the engine. On many of the older GM starters, you could remove the solenoid from the starter, loosen and rotate the the large brass lugs on the solenoid and hook everything back up. In most cases this will fix the problem at least temporarily until you can buy a new solenoid.
good luck |
I will tell every one the true. at lunch time I when out and get my self a new solenoid. it cost me $12.63.
this weekend I will drop the all starter and change the solenoid, and check everything ealse on the starter |
Let me repeat myself. If you can hear the starter solenoid click, then there isn't anything wrong with the solenoid. Your problem is with the copper contacts the solenoid forces together to switch current to the starter motor. You just spent $12 for nothing and just replacing the solenoid will not fix your problem.
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Originally Posted by jfb
(Post 1579290043)
Let me repeat myself. If you can hear the starter solenoid click, then there isn't anything wrong with the solenoid. Your problem is with the copper contacts the solenoid forces together to switch current to the starter motor. You just spent $12 for nothing and just replacing the solenoid will not fix your problem.
He got a solenoid for $12, that something, not nothing. :D |
ok. I will check the contact when I got the starter out. if they look bad. I will change them or clean them. what ever is best.
I all ready get the solenoid. nothing I can do about it now. |
I thought the contacts came with the solenoid. Last solenoid I replaced which was years back I think I got the contacts. Be as it may if the solenoid does not come with the contacts, that could be a problem.
But in the last few years I stopped replacing solenoids. With my luck I ended up with a bad starter two times not to long after that. Now I just get a starter (+solenoid) with a lifetime guarantee and I’m done with it. Seems to be working for me but that’s just my current outlook.:) |
Originally Posted by pcolt94
(Post 1579294307)
I thought the contacts came with the solenoid. Last solenoid I replaced which was years back I think I got the contacts. Be as it may if the solenoid does not come with the contacts, that could be a problem.:)
But in the last few years I stopped replacing solenoids. With my luck I ended up with a bad starter two times not to long after that. Now I just get a starter with a lifetime guarantee and I’m done with it. Seems to be working for me but that’s just my current outlook. |
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