Who cncs the OEM ls7 head
Does anyone know who cnc these heads from the factory? Was it ported from Katech? And what’s the real solution to fixing the valve problem? It isn’t the angle or geometry of it. I heard it’s the material |
Originally Posted by 427V8BB
(Post 1597033152)
Does anyone know who cnc these heads from the factory? Was it ported from Katech? And what’s the real solution to fixing the valve problem? It isn’t the angle or geometry of it. I heard it’s the material The generally accepted explanation is that Linamar, Ontario, Canada was the supplier charged with providing the heads. They apparently did not drill/bore the valve guide bores concentrically; this created a geometry problem that causes premature valve guide were, some as early as 3,000 miles (see my related thread). This was admitted by Chevrolet, who claimed the problem was rectified in 2011, however there are failures occurring in all years. Again, read the threads, there are also comments about oil starvation due to excessive heat due to the construction of the exhaust valves, rocker geometry, cam lift, etc. There are those on the Forum that have purchased brand new replacement heads from Chevy, had them checked and they were bad, from a concentricity perspective. Hope this helps. |
Originally Posted by Too-Fast
(Post 1597035810)
I don't want to appear to not answer your question but you might as well ask if there is a God. There are numerous threads that discuss this subject death, if you do a search you will find plenty of reading.
The generally accepted explanation is that Linamar, Ontario, Canada was the supplier charged with providing the heads. They apparently did not drill/bore the valve guide bores concentrically; this created a geometry problem that causes premature valve guide were, some as early as 3,000 miles (see my related thread). This was admitted by Chevrolet, who claimed the problem was rectified in 2011, however there are failures occurring in all years. Again, read the threads, there are also comments about oil starvation due to excessive heat due to the construction of the exhaust valves, rocker geometry, cam lift, etc. There are those on the Forum that have purchased brand new replacement heads from Chevy, had them checked and they were bad, from a concentricity perspective. Hope this helps. i was told from a VIP that that’s not the case it’s the material they used in the guides and valve that the geometry had nothing to do with it is this true? |
Originally Posted by 427V8BB
(Post 1597036240)
i was told from a VIP that that’s not the case it’s the material they used in the guides and valve that the geometry had nothing to do with it is this true? |
Originally Posted by newchevyman
(Post 1597036305)
Wow a VIP? Sometimes I think I'm important but then I hear about VIPs and remember I'm just a lowly peasant.
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Originally Posted by 427V8BB
(Post 1597036240)
i was told from a VIP that that’s not the case it’s the material they used in the guides and valve that the geometry had nothing to do with it is this true? |
Originally Posted by 427V8BB
(Post 1597033152)
Does anyone know who cnc these heads from the factory? Was it ported from Katech? And what’s the real solution to fixing the valve problem? It isn’t the angle or geometry of it. I heard it’s the material |
Originally Posted by G8Pumpkin
(Post 1597038451)
My research says there is no 1 single thing that causes the failure, there are multiple problems.
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Originally Posted by 427V8BB
(Post 1597038465)
do people know who did the cnc program for the ls7 Head? I can’t find any information pretty sure Katech were paid too |
Originally Posted by 427V8BB
(Post 1597033152)
Does anyone know who cnc these heads from the factory? Was it ported from Katech? And what’s the real solution to fixing the valve problem? It isn’t the angle or geometry of it. I heard it’s the material |
Originally Posted by Katech_Jason
(Post 1597039967)
We did not do any production machining for LS7 cylinder heads.
forsure, may I ask what you think the reasoning to drop valves are? |
Originally Posted by 427V8BB
(Post 1597040773)
forsure, may I ask what you think the reasoning to drop valves are? |
Originally Posted by Dan_the_C5_Man
(Post 1597040844)
Dood.. C'mon man.. This has been explained ad-nauseum.. I hope Jason has better things to do.. :cheers:
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Originally Posted by 427V8BB
(Post 1597040773)
forsure, may I ask what you think the reasoning to drop valves are?
Originally Posted by Dan_the_C5_Man
(Post 1597040844)
Dood.. C'mon man.. This has been explained ad-nauseum.. I hope Jason has better things to do.. :cheers:
We have not directly attributed dropping valves to worn guides here, but we have seem some pretty severe hourglass shaped wear and I can assume that given enough time to wobble around in the head it could ultimately lead to valve failure. I've attached the article I wrote regarding valve guides to get you up to speed. |
Maybe the VIP is the same one that said they started doing 100% inspection of the Linimar provided heads in early 2011, yet brand new heads from the factory provided in 2013 have had the guides not concentric with the valve seats by more than the GM specification. One GM machinist/engineer said that could not be the case because GM uses the guide to do the valve seat. That may be what GM does internally, but Linimar is "modern" and uses CNC machines to do the seats, not using the guides as the tool "guide" to center the milled guide seat.
Linimar also provided all the C7Z06 e-difs "ready to install" to Chevy. They just short filled the difs on the oil, which is not on any dealer list to do a PDI check of dif oil level. Quite a few of those e-difs failed in less than 5K miles. |
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