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DomLS3 05-18-2018 08:22 PM

M7 throttle lag
 
Hey everyone. Hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I've got a 2015 Z06, M7 with 2" longtubes, halltech CAI, 2.31 upper pulley and tune.

We all know about the throttle lag problem with this car. I was hoping a tune would take care of some of it, however, it didn't. I finally had enough and purchased a ported throttle body from Tony Mamo. Unfortunately, this did not fix the problem either. I can be in neutral, put my foot to the floor, release and the pedal snap back all the way before the rpms move (while sitting still). I'm moving in say 1st or 2nd gear and hit the pedal quick, say maybe half throttle and let go, there's still about a half a second of lag before the rpms move. Same with WOT.

I've got a call into Tony to see if he knows anything (left a message) and I've also got my tuner looking at the tune again to see if anything was missed. My tuner is a very reputable and very respected LS/Camaro tuner who also does LTx. Not sure how big of a difference in tuning the two are. Does anyone have any idea what it could be assuming the tune is ok and there's nothing wrong with the PTB? I had a full bolt on LS3 Camaro before this car (no tune), and the throttle was instant on it. I mean, if I was in 1st or 2nd and barely press the pedal, you were put back in your seat. On the Z06, it's almost like it barely even moves.

EDIT: I've been reading around and it looks like (at least for the A8 guys) the touring mode is worse than sport or track mode. I drive in touring mode everywhere and didn't think to try sport or track mode to test the lag. Either tonight or tomorrow I'll go for another drive and see how it is in different modes and maybe the answer is to drive in sport from now on, although I prefer the less stiff ride of touring. I've also read about doing some tuning in the driver demand tables A B and C, which after looking over my tune doesn't look like my tuner did much to. Maybe this is my issue? According to this post that table should be edited: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1595539794

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

C5-VERT 05-19-2018 01:13 PM

Sounds to me like traction control kicking in. It will do that on the first to second shift easily. Stalls for a half second. Try putting it in sport or been tour but turn traction control off. Leave active handling on. As long as you don’t get too sideways that will get rid of the stall. I am in competition mode ever time I take mine out hold center button down for few seconds until both lights are on in dash. Only do that if you truly understand the dynamics of the car otherwise you will end up in a tree or off the road. I am not recommending taking active handling odd. Just traction control.

C5-VERT 05-19-2018 01:15 PM

GM also puts a little delay in the accelerator off floor look into the vitisse controller. I have heard mixed reviews on it. Personally I don’t experience your issue especially with traction control off. Hard to say.

Bill Dearborn 05-19-2018 01:31 PM

Have been running my 15 Z06 on track and the street for 2.5 years and haven't experienced any throttle lag.

Bill

Cercone 05-19-2018 02:26 PM

This sounds like the TC kicking in. Turn off the nannies and if it still persists it sounds like you may have the torque management acting up. This could be because the tune.

Warp Factor 05-19-2018 03:50 PM

Thottle-by-wire cars tend to have a little bit of throttle lag, but the ZO6 is the most severe I have experienced, much worse than on my C5. I know exactly what you mean about giving the throttle a quick stab, and being completely back off the throttle before the car lurches forward. Kinda shocked me at first, and seemed a little dangerous, but I guess I'm learning to deal with it.

DomLS3 05-21-2018 09:54 AM

Still waiting on my tuner to get back with me but after I've done some more reading, I'm almost 100% certain it's in the torque management options in the tune. I'll let everyone know what happens once I get it figured out. Hopefully some tuners will chime in here and give some insight aswell.

badhabit_wb 05-21-2018 10:16 AM

I had a little lag in my 15 but the Tony Mamo tb fixed that. It was nothing like what you're talking about even before the tb.

Cercone 05-21-2018 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by djpelosi (Post 1597243036)
Still waiting on my tuner to get back with me but after I've done some more reading, I'm almost 100% certain it's in the torque management options in the tune. I'll let everyone know what happens once I get it figured out. Hopefully some tuners will chime in here and give some insight aswell.

Your tuner should be able to adjust those tables easily. Keep us updated (some had similar issues here in Houston, that’s why I mentioned it in my last post).


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