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4 spd shifter differences c2-c3?
i have a hurst shifter left over from my c2 resto. from what i have seen the c2 shifters have a dog leg reverse arm on the shifter. does the c3 also? if this will fit the 68 i might use it? i would just have too buy a linkage kit for it.. give your thoughts guys..thanks troy
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I think the shifter is the shifter and the transmission is the transmission. And I don't think there's any difference in the transmission.
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There's a different PN for both the shifter and the linkage for the C3, vs the C2. I know, because used or discounted Hurst C3 shifter and linkage combos are really tough to find on both Craigslist and EBay. I looked for months and finally, just recently one set of both popped up on EBay for $450, vs $580 to $620. It was a buy it now or obo and it had two watchers, so I pulled the trigger. It was a brand new kit that's some one brought to install in a C3, but never did and had sold the C3 a long time ago. I then purchased the Hurst Pit Pack with the steel linkage bushings immediately afterwards.
It's going into my C3 along with the new engine next month. PS: There was a new C2 kit in my local CL for months, but the PN's as mentioned weren't the same and I didn't want to get stuck with something that didn't work. |
you may need to do some online researsch but i would think that the actual shifter mechanism is the same. The levers are different from vehicle to vehicle/ make to make, the mount to the transmission to push it further to the side in some applications, then of course the rods. If you already have it, bolt it in, its just time under the car and playing in the console. You may have to shim the shifter to the lefft to get it to fit centered in the console hole but everything else would be fine.
I can take a pic of the Hurst Comp Plus that came out of my car later today if that helps I've been going through this same situation with an old Hurst V Gate 2 that I did a little refurb on. I ended up having to buy rods that where close and making them fit by tapping the threads longer and changing the bend angles. I doubt you'll have to do that since your shifter is still being manufactured https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...bab5004844.jpg unboxed with Mr Gasket shift lever with junk rods https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...8fdf921f77.jpg mostly back to original, awaiting a new guide and rivets https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...3966cddb4f.jpg installed on an old tranny before I had finished bending the levers |
love those V-GATE shifters! i have a the old style hurst left over from my 65. it has the curved handle that is not removable. i was going to make it removable and mock up a factory handle. i know the arms are the same for the linkage 63-68.. they are for the stud and nut style early muncies. if you have a picture of your c3 shifter i would like too see it please! thanks troy
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I get put of work at 2pm Eastern, I'll get some pics
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The shifter itself will likely be the same, the differences will be in the linkage, mounting bracket, and shift handle. If you have access to an old Hurst catalog, all those parts are listed so you can figure out what you need. When I installed the TKO600 in my '79 the trans they gave me was for a C2 and I had to fabricate an adapter to put the shift handle in the correct position. Since then they have come up with the correct shifter configuration for the C3 which I have since installed, so there is definitely a difference. Below is a photo of the C3 shifter next to the C3 shifter handle attached to the adapter I fabricated. The C2 shifter comes straight up out of the transmission, the C3 shifter is positioned rearward and angled back about 30 degrees.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...048a527887.jpg |
heres the pics of the Hurst Competion Plus. I took close ups of the part numbers that are visible
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...1dddca19ee.jpg front of the mounting plate https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...edf76bff26.jpg part number https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...d9b0cca795.jpg back side https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...2b5bfc0396.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...07393a1723.jpg part number for shifter https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...7dfe2e60a9.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...f0b2751d76.jpg part number for case https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...bfb9a2adb3.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...79da889e29.jpg patent and shifter name plate |
Originally Posted by Rescue Rogers
(Post 1598932575)
you may need to do some online researsch but i would think that the actual shifter mechanism is the same. The levers are different from vehicle to vehicle/ make to make, the mount to the transmission to push it further to the side in some applications, then of course the rods. If you already have it, bolt it in, its just time under the car and playing in the console. You may have to shim the shifter to the lefft to get it to fit centered in the console hole but everything else would be fine.
I can take a pic of the Hurst Comp Plus that came out of my car later today if that helps I've been going through this same situation with an old Hurst V Gate 2 that I did a little refurb on. I ended up having to buy rods that where close and making them fit by tapping the threads longer and changing the bend angles. I doubt you'll have to do that since your shifter is still being manufactured https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...bab5004844.jpg unboxed with Mr Gasket shift lever with junk rods https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...8fdf921f77.jpg mostly back to original, awaiting a new guide and rivets https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...3966cddb4f.jpg installed on an old tranny before I had finished bending the levers |
I was going to install it this summer but broke a finger at the knuckle and its too hard to shift the muncie shifter into reverse with the lockout..... maybe next winter. It looks so cool and shifting it is fun as hell, wish i could install it sooner
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I installed new wheel studs replacing the Grade 8 bolts that were in there.
Also https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...771525603.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...44d2c8ca8.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...249a3163c.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...ffb1d406a.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...80a712a61.jpeg emptied the vinegar vat getting ready for POR coating. |
Originally Posted by Corvettedave02
(Post 1601820233)
I installed new wheel studs replacing the Grade 8 bolts that were in there.
Also https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...771525603.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...44d2c8ca8.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...249a3163c.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...ffb1d406a.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...80a712a61.jpeg emptied the vinegar vat getting ready for POR coating. What does this have to do concerning a year old thread about Hurst shifters? |
I'ev seen that rear end before, I think he just posted to the wrong thread, maybe another related thread snafu/ I believe he has his own thread about his rebuild
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... wrong thread
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Success. Factory A/C is now working. I changed the dryer and recharged the system.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...3a25b07f6.jpeg 48 degrees |
Wrong thread
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Originally Posted by 20round
(Post 1598926144)
i have a hurst shifter left over from my c2 resto. from what i have seen the c2 shifters have a dog leg reverse arm on the shifter. does the c3 also? if this will fit the 68 i might use it? i would just have too buy a linkage kit for it.. give your thoughts guys..thanks troy
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Well, I bought a C3 today and joined the Corvette Forum! I'm a long time fan of Corvettes, but first time owning one... looking forward to learning from all of you!
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Originally Posted by dave617
(Post 1603399207)
Well, I bought a C3 today and joined the Corvette Forum! I'm a long time fan of Corvettes, but first time owning one... looking forward to learning from all of you!
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Originally Posted by pigfarmer
(Post 1602879331)
... wrong thread
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