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Old 02-22-2019, 08:38 AM
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i have a hurst shifter left over from my c2 resto. from what i have seen the c2 shifters have a dog leg reverse arm on the shifter. does the c3 also? if this will fit the 68 i might use it? i would just have too buy a linkage kit for it.. give your thoughts guys..thanks troy
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:30 AM
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I think the shifter is the shifter and the transmission is the transmission. And I don't think there's any difference in the transmission.
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:41 AM
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There's a different PN for both the shifter and the linkage for the C3, vs the C2. I know, because used or discounted Hurst C3 shifter and linkage combos are really tough to find on both Craigslist and EBay. I looked for months and finally, just recently one set of both popped up on EBay for $450, vs $580 to $620. It was a buy it now or obo and it had two watchers, so I pulled the trigger. It was a brand new kit that's some one brought to install in a C3, but never did and had sold the C3 a long time ago. I then purchased the Hurst Pit Pack with the steel linkage bushings immediately afterwards.

It's going into my C3 along with the new engine next month. PS: There was a new C2 kit in my local CL for months, but the PN's as mentioned weren't the same and I didn't want to get stuck with something that didn't work.

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Old 02-23-2019, 07:07 AM
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you may need to do some online researsch but i would think that the actual shifter mechanism is the same. The levers are different from vehicle to vehicle/ make to make, the mount to the transmission to push it further to the side in some applications, then of course the rods. If you already have it, bolt it in, its just time under the car and playing in the console. You may have to shim the shifter to the lefft to get it to fit centered in the console hole but everything else would be fine.

I can take a pic of the Hurst Comp Plus that came out of my car later today if that helps


I've been going through this same situation with an old Hurst V Gate 2 that I did a little refurb on. I ended up having to buy rods that where close and making them fit by tapping the threads longer and changing the bend angles. I doubt you'll have to do that since your shifter is still being manufactured


unboxed with Mr Gasket shift lever with junk rods



mostly back to original, awaiting a new guide and rivets



installed on an old tranny before I had finished bending the levers

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Old 02-23-2019, 08:59 AM
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love those V-GATE shifters! i have a the old style hurst left over from my 65. it has the curved handle that is not removable. i was going to make it removable and mock up a factory handle. i know the arms are the same for the linkage 63-68.. they are for the stud and nut style early muncies. if you have a picture of your c3 shifter i would like too see it please! thanks troy
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Old 02-23-2019, 09:39 AM
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I get put of work at 2pm Eastern, I'll get some pics
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The shifter itself will likely be the same, the differences will be in the linkage, mounting bracket, and shift handle. If you have access to an old Hurst catalog, all those parts are listed so you can figure out what you need. When I installed the TKO600 in my '79 the trans they gave me was for a C2 and I had to fabricate an adapter to put the shift handle in the correct position. Since then they have come up with the correct shifter configuration for the C3 which I have since installed, so there is definitely a difference. Below is a photo of the C3 shifter next to the C3 shifter handle attached to the adapter I fabricated. The C2 shifter comes straight up out of the transmission, the C3 shifter is positioned rearward and angled back about 30 degrees.

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heres the pics of the Hurst Competion Plus. I took close ups of the part numbers that are visible


front of the mounting plate



part number



back side






part number for shifter






part number for case






patent and shifter name plate
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