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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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I am putting in my 402 which is internally balanced. Is the stock flywheel neutral balanced or do I need to get it re-balanced? What about the clutch?
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I am putting in my 402 which is internally balanced. Is the stock flywheel neutral balanced or do I need to get it re-balanced? What about the clutch?
The LS1 is externaly balanced and yes you can take that to the bank Since your 402 is interally balanced all you will need to do is neutral balance the the flywheel and the pressure plate. The clutch plate needs to be balanced by it's self as it's position to the other parts is not fixed...

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since when is the ls1 externally balanced? The crank is not keyed so i dont see how that is possible

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since when is the ls1 externally balanced? The crank is not keyed so i dont see how that is possible

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Since the 1st one was built!!!!!!!!! What do you mean by " the crank is not keyed" ???

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the motor (when externally balanced) is balanced via balancer and flywheel. Since there is no key, there is no guarantee that the balancer will be put back on oriented right. With that said, I saw no weights on my FW or balancer. Also, ive put on a different balancer and flywheel and I still have no vibration, so unless it is internally balanced, I just got lucky when putting on my new components to not have a balance. usually when a motor is externally balanced there is a keyway on the crank to properly locate the weight. On fords its a 28 or 50 oz. imbalance.

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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Hi,
The LS engines are not externally balanced.
Much of this confusion is caused by:
1.Chevy zero balances the flywheel and pressure plates as a unit so the flywheel alone may not be zero balanced
2.Chevy refines the balance of Vette engines after they are assembled by pressing small weights into pre-drilled holes in the flywheel & damper as determined by spinning the engine as an assembly
3.Chevy did not refine the balance of Camaros so they will not have the small weights
4.New replacement dampers are zero balanced
5.Used dampers from a Vette may not be zero balanced if they still have the weights installed
6.Aftermarket flywheels are zero balanced
7.Aftermarket pressure plates are zero balanced

So here are a few chooses when modifying your engine
1.To change only the flywheel or only the pressure plate, match balance to the old value
2.To change the flywheel & pressure plate together:
•match balance an aftermarket flywheel/pressure plate as a unit
•when using a new Chevy flywheel/pressure plate, you can transfer the small weights or match balance

Other options include going back to a zero balance damper & flywheel/clutch by removing all of the weight or zero balancing everything, which is as good as a Camaro balance

Good luck,
Steve
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SNW Vette
Hi,
The LS engines are not externally balanced.
Much of this confusion is caused by:
1.Chevy zero balances the flywheel and pressure plates as a unit so the flywheel alone may not be zero balanced
2.Chevy refines the balance of Vette engines after they are assembled by pressing small weights into pre-drilled holes in the flywheel & damper as determined by spinning the engine as an assembly
3.Chevy did not refine the balance of Camaros so they will not have the small weights
4.New replacement dampers are zero balanced
5.Used dampers from a Vette may not be zero balanced if they still have the weights installed
6.Aftermarket flywheels are zero balanced
7.Aftermarket pressure plates are zero balanced

So here are a few chooses when modifying your engine
1.To change only the flywheel or only the pressure plate, match balance to the old value
2.To change the flywheel & pressure plate together:
•match balance an aftermarket flywheel/pressure plate as a unit
•when using a new Chevy flywheel/pressure plate, you can transfer the small weights or match balance

Other options include going back to a zero balance damper & flywheel/clutch by removing all of the weight or zero balancing everything, which is as good as a Camaro balance

Good luck,
Steve
Good info. So if I will use my stock flywheel with an after market clutch, I simply need to remove the weight from the flywheel since the pressure plate should be zero balanced? If I will use the stock damper, I need to remove the weight here as well?

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Take your flywheel and pressure plate to a machine shop and have them balanced as a unit. Did that to mine and the small vibration I could feel in the shifter before, went away.
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I already have them in the truck to take there. So is the damper OK as it is?
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Originally Posted by SNW Vette
Hi,
The LS engines are not externally balanced.
Much of this confusion is caused by:
1.Chevy zero balances the flywheel and pressure plates as a unit so the flywheel alone may not be zero balanced
2.Chevy refines the balance of Vette engines after they are assembled by pressing small weights into pre-drilled holes in the flywheel & damper as determined by spinning the engine as an assembly
3.Chevy did not refine the balance of Camaros so they will not have the small weights
4.New replacement dampers are zero balanced
5.Used dampers from a Vette may not be zero balanced if they still have the weights installed
6.Aftermarket flywheels are zero balanced
7.Aftermarket pressure plates are zero balanced

So here are a few chooses when modifying your engine
1.To change only the flywheel or only the pressure plate, match balance to the old value
2.To change the flywheel & pressure plate together:
•match balance an aftermarket flywheel/pressure plate as a unit
•when using a new Chevy flywheel/pressure plate, you can transfer the small weights or match balance

Other options include going back to a zero balance damper & flywheel/clutch by removing all of the weight or zero balancing everything, which is as good as a Camaro balance

Good luck,
Steve
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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Seems that the damper is ok so I will balance the pressure plate and flywheel as a unit.

Thanks guys
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