Z06

 

If money isn't the huge issue, go with the Z06!

 

No need to. Its self explanatory and self evident. Just take a look at the prior posts about "395hp" for the existing C6s and other examples such as "stainless steel" stock exhaust systems all of a sudden, for the '08 just to name a couple. Indeed, the same crap aluminized steel used in even the C5 Vette and numerous other cars, is the same crap being used in the '08.

We were being told that the butterfly mechanism in the exhaust was warrantied for 100K miles and that the polished wheels on the car are "forged" yet they sell for the same price as last years cast wheels. Cheapest "forged" wheels I have ever seen, no doubt.

But do a search of your own, you don't need my help in "elaborating". Its evident for anyone who chooses to look.

 

I'm surprised a couple of responses have mentioned how people dislike the looks of the Z.

Personally i don't like the looks of the C6 at all, it's missing the aggressive stance of the Z and is too soft (to each his own).

If the C6 came STOCK with the body of a 'Z' i would buy one.

I keep thinking about what i want, as i am in the same situation as you and i love my current convertible and am worried i will miss dropping the top, so the C6 would be ideal. It has more than enough power for the street yet it is in no way a 'Z.'

I don't think i would be happy with a C6 so will end up buying the Z eventually (most likely after the summer to enjoy my vert).

Josh.

 

Z

It sneaks up on people. at least it did to me on my way to Bloomington Gold...

And it was gorgeous when it filled my rearview mirror!

 

This coming from someone who has a z51 badge as an avatar and "z51" in their username.

There are many reasons to stick to an 08 z51 over a z06. But then again there are reasons to get a z06 as well. Nobody is gonna tell you anything you don't already know.

On paper, I would say the base C6 wins out. 70hp and some small weight savings isn't enough to justify a 25k jump, IMO. It only makes sense if you know how to use it(really use it) and intend to track the car a lot.

Ofcourse the z06 wins the style points. A 427 small block that revs to 7k rpm. The opportunity to own a car that will go down in history as one of the best american sports cars ever....

 

I haven't seen any posts about ss exhausts?

Wow, crap? That's a little harsh. Why all the anger?

And that bothers you why ...?? Did you almost buy an '08 because of that tease ?

But I do need your help in elaborating because I don't agree with you.

I don't understand why you seem to have made it your personal crusade to bash the 2008 Corvette at every opportunity, more so than anyone else on this board. Why? Is there something we don't know? Why didn't you bash the '07? Maybe because it has the same engine and transmission as your '05?

All those negative waves aren't good for you.

 

fanboyism

The collective outlook and behavior of a group of people concerning a subject (movies, games, hardware, comic book characters, etc.) which when challenged results in an antagonistic, passionate, and unreasoned response.

Rampant Fanboyism can be found on most internet message boards when such hot button subjects are discussed. You know a fanboy when you see one!!

 

WCULVER.
I went through the same decision process as you. I have wanted the C6 Z since it was introduced. Thought it was a lot of money and could not find any deals at MSRP back then so got a 05 Z51 instead. But my lust for the Z continued.

Took one of my annual trips to Spring Mountain back in Oct o6 and got to drive the C6 Z, C5Z and C6. No question now the C6Z is the ONE, love the looks, power and handling. It would only be a matter of time and money.

Flash forward to April C5/C6 Bash. Got to see all of the new models and decided 08 Z51 would be a good purchase with all the new stuff, especially the 436 hp. But I still really wanted the Z06, if only I could find one at MSRP...

As I sat down one day to plan the specifics of the 08 coupe order but instead began to rationalize the cost of the Z.
The house heater/air conditioner works ok most of the time, I probably wouldn't use a deck all that much, don't need wood floors really and the carpet still has some life left in it. Cool that helps the funds issue I just diverted the house funds for the Z. Plenty of room in the back of the Z if it gets too cold or hot in the house, besides it will increase my chances to bond with the new car

Now if I go for the 1LZ instead of the 2LZ that would knock off an additional 3-4K and if I could find a dealer that would give a good deal and has allocation..... and that's where Rick Conti came in.

So AO Z06 was ordered and I'll never look back.

Now if only I could get pass the 3000 status and get a build date!!!!!!!

I sounds to me you really want the Z, GO FOR IT.

Gary

 

If you won't notice the difference in your bank account between the two,get the Z06. If you will miss the extra $20k,do yourself a favor & don't even drive the Z06.

Contrary to some on here,there is a lot more to a Z06 than 70hp & a "little" weight vs coupe. They are completely different cars when driven spiritedly.

 

If I had a shot at getting a Z06 instead of my coupe I would do it. In the end, the performance of the Z06 would far outweigh the luxury of a removable roof. But then again, there are plenty of people that will tell you that you can mod a coupe to outdo a Z06 and keep the removable roof... Your problem really has no downside when you look at it. Good Luck!

 

No Z06 for me until the chassis is stiff enough for the top to come off!

 

Huh???

First of all, there has never been any explantaion one way or another on where the 395 hp came from - and it's irrelivent to the 2008 - who's horsepower is certified.

Second, I've never read anything about whether the exhaust system is SS or aluminized. Nor have I ever heard of anyone having a problem with the stock exhaust regardless of what it is.

Third - what's your point about the wheels? Maybe they are cheap forged. Does anyone really care?

Finally, I've never read that the mechanism is under warranty for 100k miles. I don't know whether it is or not. Sure, I'd like it to be - but I don't know and I ordered the exhaust (as have a lot of other forum members).

Fanboyism? Clearly a made up word. I guess that means I can make up words whenever I want on the internet. I've got a few I can think of, but I'll save them for another day.

 

Compared to the other cars (i.e. exotics, etc.) the Z06 is a steal. I wouldn't be comparing it to the C6. I'd be comparing to the others! The looks and performance are world class.

If you have the money, Z06 hands down.

 

Why would GM lie about Forged wheels? They have never offered forged wheels and they finally do...Oh they must be fake because they are only a 1300 dollar option? They do make cheaper forged wheels.

395Hp LS2 chart is the current LS2 engine. No factual evidence from GM to say its the SS trailblazer engine or the corvettes.

-the exhaust may not be shiny and pretty like some aftermarket exhausts, but it gives the same HP/Tq increases aftermarket exhausts do. It's also supposed to be louder than Corsa Sports. I care about the sound and HP increase more than some polished exhaust. I also don't want my exhaust to be loud 100% of the time..that can draw unwanted attention in some cases and become annoying. Oh, and the NPP design is completely different than the current C6 exhaust..its got different plumbing.


-There should be nothing negative to say about the 2008 C6s..they made several improvements and upgrades at hardly any price increase to the base price of 2007 models. Some actually reported a decrease in price on certain options/combos.

-Finally not everyone wants to mod there C6 and potentially loose there warranty and some just like to stay stock for whatever reasons. The 08' C6 offers a true warrantied upgrade to previous 05'-07' C6 owners.

 

There are three things that prevent me from owning a new Z06:
1. The extra cost (although it is a bargain for all the options)
2. Non removeable top
3. Manual only trans (I would love to see a paddle shift 6 spd)

Having said that, I have not driven one. I am sure if I drove one I would get hooked!

 

I think it's awesome that the LS3 and TR6060 are available at no additional cost.

When they upped the HP for the C5Z06 from 385 to 405 (hmm- that's only 20 HP) I don't recall people bashing the 2002 model because the 2001 was underrated and people were stupid to think that they were really getting 20 more HP, blah, blah, blah ......

 

Oh, yes, the '08 exhaust system, from the x pipe, to the mufflers to the butterfly valves, to the tips, are now held out as "stainless steel". When someone refers to an exhaust system being "stainless steel", what does that mean to you???

If someone were to put a stock C5 exhaust for sale on this board and refer to it, represent it as "stainless steel" how would you take that??? But since neither you nor jSchindler seem to have seen a post on this:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1560276327

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...8&postcount=73

Anger???? Hardly anger.

Get real. Actually as far as "bothersome" well, to tell people, presumeably for fact, that something on the car is included in the 100K drivetrain warranty, when in fact it is not, is misleading. And to do so amid all of the other hype and exuberence, is indeed, fanboyism.

I have given you more than enough information to prove my point.

Crusade???? Bashing????? Merely calling it as I see it. Nothing more, nothing less. If you call that a "crusade" or "bashing" perhaps its because I am not as enamored with these minor changes as others, particularly those who are purchasing this car, seem to be.

Thanks doc.


Are you forgetting that there were those at the Bash, who told us that this number was what the prior LS2 put down using the new SAE guidelines, and that GM engineers told them this at the Bash??

Have you forgotten that this 395 figure was being held out by the '08 fanboys, as the actual "certified" power under the new SAE guidelines, of the existing LS2 engine in the C6 Corvette?


Are you forgetting that chart held out as "evidence" that this was the case???

It was hype and BS.

See above.

More hype. We were also told by the fanboys that these wheels, because of their lighter weight and the fact that they were "forged" would result in better handling capabilities for the '08.

I can most surely find the post. Do you need me to???

Might want to check the dictionary.

They may have a forged "look" but I highly doubt they are actually forged.

 

As to the OP, the C6Z is an awesome car. If I were willing to spend the additional money on a car ($ delta of a C6Z06 vs. C6) instead of putting it into a newer / bigger house, I would buy the Z in a heartbeat. I like the more aggressive look of the Z.

The only caveat is that I would have a little concern over the number of engines that have handgrenaded from dropped valves. I would research that issue first.

 

Are you saying that picture presented at the bash is a lie? I don't understand.

I get it now. You are protecting the potential buyers of 2008 Corvettes from excessive joy. It all makes sense now. We are so fortunate to have you here to sniff out and debunk the hype for us poor souls.

Thank you oh defender against joy and overhype. You Sir, are our hero !!