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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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I 'searched" through the threads and never really found one that just quit working, both at the same time. Geeze, man, when it rains, it pours! Basically, Backed out of the garage and headlights popped right up when I turned them on. Went to the store and headlight went back down normally. I came out of the store, turned on the lights and nothing happened! I have been manually raising them now for about one month since the local Chevy dealership bent me over on the steering lock situation. Since they both quit working at the same time, the law of odds would tell me that it is not the motors or gears. Unfortunately, I live in a small town and this car might as well be a Ferrari of sorts to the local shops. Thanks for any direction you can lead me!
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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Do you have service manuals? If not, and you can do electrical troubleshooting, I can post the schematics.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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Thanks very much, I do have the service manual and all the schematics resemble a japanese matrix. I am trying really hard to decipher!
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Start by cleaning grounds at the front frame rails, #7 and #8. Remove the splice pack, open it up and clean all the connections.
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Wow, hey thanks very much for taking the time posting that! We are building a plant in Kinston that is currently on hold for the economy. Have you heard about ALOT of chickens coming to town? I used to fly up there about every other day and sit at the airport ALL day. Thanks again
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 12:03 AM
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Check all fuses in the car and under the hood next to the battery. Hope that's all it is.
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Originally Posted by spiral04
Check all fuses in the car and under the hood next to the battery. Hope that's all it is.
Yep, could be a fuse, but there is one for the right, and one for the left. Kinda rare to blow 2 at the same time!


Fuse #3 and #4

After grounds and fuses check good, get out the voltmeter and we'll check inputs to the Headlamp Module.

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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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Are both bulbs and both hi-beam bulbs still working?
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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Do the lamps turn on but just not come up or do they not turn on at all? If they don't come on, then its probably the headlamp switch. If they turn on, but don't rise, its most likely the headlamp controller. Be sure to check those grounds and fuses before buying anything.
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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Try turning on the Twilight Mode in the configuration menu. If the lights then work properly when it's dark out, I vote for the multifunction (turn signal) switch on the steering column. If I remember correctly there is a separate set of contacts inside the multifunction switch that tells the computer to open the headlights before the headlights actually come on. Do a search for "multifunction switch" if you want to try repairing or replacing the switch yourself.

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The lights will come on bright or dim, they are just not popping up or down. Possibly the headlight controller? I will get in the garage tonight and clean all grounds and connections and then price the controller i guess. Thanks
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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It could still be either the switch or the controller, but sure sounds like the controller too me. Check the connectors to it,..two of them. Make sure they are plugged in all the way. Its mounted on the front of the right forward frame rail. Be careful accessing this area too... I suggest you disconnect the headlamp connector first. Should you activate the headlamp motor while your arm is in there, you are going to be hurting badly and maybe stuck!
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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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just keep in mind that viagra would only work when you'd be following some babe...
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Check out this link:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...f-replace.html

Notice that one of the pics shows a contact in the switch for the Headlamps UP function. Something has to tell the controller that you want to raise the headlamps. That signal comes from the contacts in the switch.

Before you start tearing into it, try activating the Twilight function using the Configuration Menu on the Driver Information Center (DIC). If the headlamps pop up and turn on automatically when it's dark outside, you've confirmed that the switch is bad because they wouldn't pop up in the Twilight mode up if the controller was bad. If they don't work in the Twilight mode either, then I'd go for the controller.

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Old Mar 3, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Good idea about the twilight function, however, I dont see that option on my car????
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OK, I feel like a leech here with all the questions! The grounds are good and tight, the fuses are good, the relays I am not sure how to tell if they are bad. Where is the headlamp module located? I cant get my headlights to work and to think I may have flown some of you guys in the past on the airlines, pretty scary huh??
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Originally Posted by Lear31A
OK, I feel like a leech here with all the questions! The grounds are good and tight, the fuses are good, the relays I am not sure how to tell if they are bad. Where is the headlamp module located? I cant get my headlights to work and to think I may have flown some of you guys in the past on the airlines, pretty scary huh??
Its mounted on the right forward frame rail.
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Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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Sorry Guys,

I mistakingly called the optional "Daylight Running Lamps (DRL)/Automatic Headlamp Control" (AHC) the Twilight (Sentinal) Mode which is also an optional related configuarable option. When the DRL/AHC is activated using the Driver Information Center (DIC), a light sensor on top of the instrument panel makes the AHC work. When it's dark enough outside, the sensor causes the DRLs to go off and the headlamps to pop up, and come on along with all the other lights associated with the headlamps.

These are optional features, and you may not have them on your particular car.

For further info, check out your users guide in the glove box and look up "Automatic Headlamp Control" in the index. Also refer to "Driver Information Center (DIC) Controls and Displays - Options" also in the index.

Sorry for the confusion. If your car doesn't have these options, then it will be a little more difficult to troubleshoot the headlamp problem. However, I would still lean towards the multifunction switch as the problem. A lot of folks have had problems with this switch including myself recently.

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