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Old May 18, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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do cut outs make a difference in horsepower?
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Old May 18, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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maybe five or so. been discussed here many times. sound is great tho.....
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I would think you would lose power due to the loss of back pressure
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Old May 18, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Randy_medion
gain or loss?
Gain...you won't lose power.

Originally Posted by Le Mans C6
I would think you would lose power due to the loss of back pressure
Yeah, you want the most restrictive exhaust you can get
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Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
Gain...you won't lose power.



Yeah, you want the most restrictive exhaust you can get
LMAO!! Thats the best one Ive seen all week!

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Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
Gain...you won't lose power.



Yeah, you want the most restrictive exhaust you can get
Maybe not on a Corvette, but I've read about some cars losing hp on a stock set up.
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No car will lose horsepower by reducing exhaust restriction. Ever been to a race track, ALMS, NASCAR, NHRA, IndyCar, etc. Not a lot of muffling going on.

There may be certain low rpm situations where the back pressure waves are required for optimal power, but I've never seen anyone post a peak hp loss from going to a less restrictive exhaust.
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Originally Posted by Le Mans C6
I would think you would lose power due to the loss of back pressure
Old wives tale. Back pressure is never your friend, even with modern engines.
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Originally Posted by Craigster05



When I had only the FAST intake and headers, I had the same findings as Joe. No HP/TQ change. But the sound was awesome (and less drone than my Z06 muffs with muff mod).

However, now that I am FI, the AFR does skew slightly when the cutouts are open. I did not try to tune for cutouts however - as this is my DD. Someday, I might tune for cutouts for track days only to see if it makes a difference (low priority at this time). Since I do my own tuning, it often takes a few days to get everything right how I like it. I don't anticipate making this kind of time investment any time soon.

So the real answer more like:
stock or close to stock = no
FI or big cam = probably/maybe, but # unknown and probably smaller than you would think (z06 muffs are pretty free flowing as is).

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When I had only the FAST intake and headers, I had the same findings as Joe. No HP/TQ change. But the sound was awesome (and less drone than my Z06 muffs with muff mod).

However, now that I am FI, the AFR does skew slightly when the cutouts are open. I did not try to tune for cutouts however - as this is my DD. Someday, I might tune for cutouts for track days only to see if it makes a difference (low priority at this time). Since I do my own tuning, it often takes a few days to get everything right how I like it. I don't anticipate making this kind of time investment any time soon.

So the real answer more like:
stock or close to stock = no
FI or big cam = probably/maybe, but # unknown and probably smaller than you would think (z06 muffs are pretty free flowing as is).

I got about 6 rwhp gain when I put in a cam and got up to 436 rwhp...see post 66 in my thread referenced above.

However, when you get over 500 rwhp the cutouts (or z06 muffler flaps) make a huge difference, like 30 rwhp. I've seen it several times on the dyno with my friend GtoDoug on his various super high HP c6's.

p.s. Craigster... Dougie hit the dyno today with his h/c package...keep your eyes peeled on the z06 section...

matter of fact here it is!
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...heads-cam.html
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on my c5r 427, i gained 21rwhp and 12rwtq open cutouts thru an auto that was NOT locked... i believe when it was locked, i gained 4x rwhp and 3xrwtq.
in the 1/4mi i gained a consistent .20 and 2mph.

They are def worth the money.
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Hmm...I was considering adding cutouts to my H/C LS2 but I already have Borla Stingers. Do you think it would make much of a difference at this point? I'm in the 480-500rwhp range.
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Hmm...I was considering adding cutouts to my H/C LS2 but I already have Borla Stingers. Do you think it would make much of a difference at this point? I'm in the 480-500rwhp range.
I had stingers. Cutouts would be a waste of money with these. They wouldn't add power and you are already breaking eardrums loud so you wouldn't hear the cutouts. Cutouts aren't as loud as stingers as they are redirected at the ground.
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Originally Posted by Joe_G
I had stingers. Cutouts would be a waste of money with these. They wouldn't add power and you are already breaking eardrums loud so you wouldn't hear the cutouts. Cutouts aren't as loud as stingers as they are redirected at the ground.
That's what I wanted to know. You just saved me a few hundred $$. thanks.

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but you can close the cutouts when you want silence, you can't with the stingers
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I have some Badlanz HPE cutouts in the H-pipe before the mufflers connect.

I did 2 dyno runs with a cool down in between. The cutouts gave me 2 more lbs of TQ at about 4k. The HP was identical.

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