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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Riles
Creative thinking but over complicating it. The OP simply needs to start over and do it right. Iron Dog, bump the starter with the #1 plug removed and using your finger to feel for air being pumped out of #1, set it to TDC on the compression stroke. Pull the cap and see where it's pointing. I'd bet not on #1. Disconnect everything and pull up and re drop the distributor so it's pointing to #1 with the engine on TDC on the compression stroke. Once that's done, re time. Get it right and test drive and let us know if you still have an overheating problem.
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No disrepect to you or the OP. I'm new here. Given the uncertainty on the part of the OP on some timing basics, I thought it was easier to take this route than to try to explain how to change the distributor rotor one tooth, the rotation of the rotor as you pull the distributor up and then re-install it and the fun of aligning the distributor tang and the oil pump driveshaft. If this were my car, I certainly would be pulling the dizzy and doing what you suggest.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 03:45 AM
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This is my situation:


What I would like to do is to mark distributor cap position, remove cap, rotate distributor base counter-clockwise, reinstall cap as the picture in order to be able to move the distributor with the cap installed. One thing I'm worry about: have too advance.
I know I should remove the distributor and realign it, but:
1) I'm a bit afraid, it's the first time...
2) according to lars paper and the picture he puts, my distributor HAS to be rotated counter-clockwise in order to be in the same position he describes...
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 05:39 AM
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Here is the easiest way, if you are now 2° retarded.

Take cap off.
Remove dist clamp and bolt.
Standing on driver's side, with left hand resting on manifold and fingers slowly pushing up dist; use right hand to hold slight counterclockwise pressure on rotor. Pry dist very, very slowly up with left hand fingers and you will feel dist gear releasing from cam gear. Lift up just a hair more and while your right hand applies pressure in clockwise rotation, you will feel the rotor and gear skip 1 tooth.
Press down the dist. It may not seat and leave a 1/4" gap at the manifold, either jiggle it or have someone just click the starter while pushing down on the dist and it will seat. Stay clear of rotor while pushing.

Time with a light. You should now be able to advance with no interference.
All this does it keep the dist housing in the same position and advances the rotor. If not enough for your particular advance, do it again.

Sounds confusing, but it's very simple and only takes a minute.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by noonie
Here is the easiest way, if you are now 2° retarded.

Take cap off.
Remove dist clamp and bolt.
Standing on driver's side, with left hand resting on manifold and fingers slowly pushing up dist; use right hand to hold slight counterclockwise pressure on rotor. Pry dist very, very slowly up with left hand fingers and you will feel dist gear releasing from cam gear. Lift up just a hair more and while your right hand applies pressure in clockwise rotation, you will feel the rotor and gear skip 1 tooth.
Press down the dist. It may not seat and leave a 1/4" gap at the manifold, either jiggle it or have someone just click the starter while pushing down on the dist and it will seat. Stay clear of rotor while pushing.

Time with a light. You should now be able to advance with no interference.
All this does it keep the dist housing in the same position and advances the rotor. If not enough for your particular advance, do it again.

Sounds confusing, but it's very simple and only takes a minute.
mmm... just thinking... if I do this way the dist cap remains in the same position (stuck)?? because the problem is that the distributor cap cant move counter-clockwise...
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Iron_dog
mmm... just thinking... if I do this way the dist cap remains in the same position (stuck)?? because the problem is that the distributor cap cant move counter-clockwise...
After doing this, you will have to move your dist clockwise to keep your present timing.
Then, to advance the timing, you then move the dist CCW.

Think on it, you'll get it.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 07:33 AM
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Got it! Will try this weekend and let you know!
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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OMG!!!! I did what I wanted to do, I removed the cap, moved distr base, reinstalled the cap, now I have 15 advance and... OMG!!! This is a new car!!! I cant believe...
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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Of course, doing this I realized why Lars suggests to install the distributor rotated 45°... in order to have RPM cable straightened.... can anybody tell me how to do? I hope not to have the distributor removed... thanks!
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Old Mar 10, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Iron_dog
Of course, doing this I realized why Lars suggests to install the distributor rotated 45°... in order to have RPM cable straightened.... can anybody tell me how to do? I hope not to have the distributor removed... thanks!
Guys could you confirm me I don't have to remove the distributor in order to move it to the alternative position Lars suggests? Thanks!
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Is this what you want to do?
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Did it, no need to remove dist. Also overheating problems gone! Great! Thank you everybody!
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Old Mar 11, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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Good job sticking with it.
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