hello c4 brothers. how are prices doing on zr1's





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Initial Z repairs
Here are the issue I knew existed and those I had to address to make the car “right”
New Tires – actually I initially bought a good used set of Sumitomos (today I have real tire - s on it :-) ~ 400
Fuel Injectors – interestingly the car ran well initially, but at ~ 50K miles two of the primary injectors died. I replaced all 16 with news ones from FIC. ~ $700
Spark plugs (but, I replace these often anyway)
clutch – this was a big job, but I had help to install a new clutch, pressure plate, etc ~500, oh and the slave cylinder was leaking too
AC recharge; replaced condensor ~$200
reverse ring on shifter
new pioneer head unit – the PO replaced the Bose with a POS system which didn’t even work ~ $300
tach repair – the tach was way off; repaired by adding resistors
TPMS sensors – two didn’t work, so I removed them all (no light on a 90 without TPMS)
windshield – the PO “forgot” to mention that the OEM windshield was cracked; I replaced it with a standard Vette windshield ~ $300
no start condition from time to time – bypassed clutch switch
removed aftermarket alarm system since it didn’t work and I thought it might be related to the “no start” condition
My son and I did these repairs ourselves with the exception of the clutch, AC, and windshield. So, for 15K I had a pretty nice driver.
Since that time I did spend “a bunch” having Marc H mod the engine :-)
Last edited by ghlkal; Dec 24, 2016 at 04:03 PM.
Check that out!!!
If the entire sensor is flying around in there keep the speed down until you check it out.
Such situations can cause a tire failure at high speed.
Not good if it did occur, just get it all out of there.

Marty
Low but stable.
The bottom has quite likely been hit awhile ago without much upward movement.
But as correctly said earlier, supply continues to be plentiful.
Bargains galore; but pristine cars selling for more than most think!
Some folks pay up for the EXACT car and condition that they want, especially when "paying -up" still is below original sticker.
Once they become common restoration candidates, which is not far off, watch for prices at all miles and conditions to begin their slow climb.
As always; buy the best that you can afford, whatever that may be!
The better the car going in, the better it will always be as you improve it.
The better cars cost more to acquire, but far less than taking the **** off of the dog in the long run.
Good luck in your search!

Marty
Initial Z repairs
Here are the issue I knew existed and those I had to address to make the car “right”
New Tires – actually I initially bought a good used set of Sumitomos (today I have real tire - s on it :-) ~ 400
Fuel Injectors – interestingly the car ran well initially, but at ~ 50K miles two of the primary injectors died. I replaced all 16 with news ones from FIC. ~ $700
Spark plugs (but, I replace these often anyway)
clutch – this was a big job, but I had help to install a new clutch, pressure plate, etc ~500, oh and the slave cylinder was leaking too
AC recharge; replaced condensor ~$200
reverse ring on shifter
new pioneer head unit – the PO replaced the Bose with a POS system which didn’t even work ~ $300
tach repair – the tach was way off; repaired by adding resistors
TPMS sensors – two didn’t work, so I removed them all (no light on a 90 without TPMS)
windshield – the PO “forgot” to mention that the OEM windshield was cracked; I replaced it with a standard Vette windshield ~ $300
no start condition from time to time – bypassed clutch switch
removed aftermarket alarm system since it didn’t work and I thought it might be related to the “no start” condition
My son and I did these repairs ourselves with the exception of the clutch, AC, and windshield. So, for 15K I had a pretty nice driver.
Since that time I did spend “a bunch” having Marc H mod the engine :-)
Dempseys porting the heads ,installing intake cams, Fidenza flywheel, secondary delete, water delete and custom tune....Should be a "real blast" to drive when it's done...






any other car prefer to buy bone stock that noones messed with yet
VT not sure Id buy a "roach" Z but for teens you can still get a clean sub 100k mi Z thats not full of problems. Skip over the LTx and go straight to it trust me. Not worth spending the money for the same thing with a differnt intake basically
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FYI, the receipt on my LPE LSV was 36k. And that was in 1997 money.
This car is super nice and has some very nice mods. Worth a look.
You can find ZR-1s with 90k miles for $15k at a dealer, and you can also find cars with less than 1k miles for $6ok. Everything is only worth as much as someone wants to pay for it and a lot of these cars tend to just sit at the dealer. ( I say this as someone who chronically cheats on his car by looking at other cars
)If you are looking to buy one as an investment to make money, you can find low mileage early cars for $20k or a little less but a large majority of ZR-1s are the early cars. You can find later cars for $25-35k (minus some exceptions). Key is that if you are looking to make money on the deal, you're going to have about 20 years to wait for that to happen and in all reality who is to say how much you'll make.
I agree with DRM500RUBYZR-1 that some cars are selling for more than people realize, but the issue is that they are special cars. Recently I was in contact with a dealer in Reno who has a 1994 Black/Red ZR-1 with 29k miles on it. (My Dream color cobo). They said they would take $22,500 for the car but no less. I'm not in the market, but I had to ask and if you ask me that's an absolute sin of a steal.
My goal personally with my cars is to enjoy them because they are worthless to me when I am gone, and if I do want/need to sell them at some point I don't want to lose my shirt on the deal.
IMO if you go to buy one and you get a deal you are happy with then you got a good deal no matter how much you paid.
Year Median Auction Value
1990 $24,200
1991 $22,000
1992 $20,000
1993 $25,400
1993 Anniversary $48,600
1994 $27,500
1995 $48,600
--Bob
Last edited by ZR1Bob; Jan 5, 2017 at 12:20 PM.
To me your list says that the prices are getting better for the "right" cars. There are just A LOT of cars on the market at the moment and most of them aren't in "collector condition". Most cars that bring the real money have 5k miles or less. Sometimes even below 1000! There are also so many out there that nobody knows about. That may seem discouraging to some who want to sell to make money, but it excites me greatly! I still eagerly await the Yellow/Red ZR-1 up in Minnesota to pop up again someday, just to know a little more about it.
Bob, unfortunately you were on the wrong side of the sale of your 95. I can tell you I paid nowhere close to $24,200 for my 90 with 25k miles on her. Marc Haibeck called the car "Shockingly original" when I took it to him to flush all the fluids. Again, there are just A LOT of ZR-1s out there and some things are worth more to some than to others. If someone offered me what I paid for my Z, I'd laugh at them. I got a good deal that was the right price for the previous owner at the time. Now, if someone offered me $24,200 Im not sure I'd sell, but I'd sure think about it.
It's a great time to buy but I don't care what the shape is of those high priced anniversary or 95s but never seen one sell that high.....
The ZR-1 held its own during the decade of the 90s even when the C-5 came out in 97......Never drove a C-5 but I heard the chassis is worlds apart from the Z.....I personally don't like the way the Z rides, than again I live in NY.,need I say more...I don't think I have ever had the setting set on sport....
When they tested the 90 Z they said it ran a 12.9 1/4 and 4.5 0-60.....
I have a feeling that 90 was a little juiced " maybe some porting and some cam timing if you ask me...I mean they were hand built....A 3,500 pound car with 375 horse doesn't really add up to those performance numbers...
The following year when road and track tested the 91 it ran a 13.8 1/4 mile and I think a 4.8 0-60.....Why such a difference from year to year when it was the exact car....
Either way like I say they are a good bang for the buck ..Yet if your waiting to see prices shoot up like its a 427 C-2 I really don't think will happen...
Mod it..Drive the hell out of em..
"But probably have those plastic covers anyway."
Be great if the engineers could develop a 2018 version hi horsepower LT5 but keep the original look of our 90's LT5's. To this day at carshows, the LT5 always stops everyone for a look!






) and it usually draws a crowd.
It sold for just under 21k and was a bargain at that price (IMO). It sold in under 2 weeks to the first person that came out to see it. Obviously after what I originally paid for it and the updates and repairs I lost a few bucks. To me it was a small price to pay for such a great car that I owned for 7+ years.
As others have said there are many bargains out there, you just need to sort thru the duds to find a good one.
On another note, I can honestly say I am sorry I sold it (even though the wife was happy to see it gone). Without a doubt I really enjoyed it, a head turner in every respect and it always drew a crowd at a car show. There's nothing like the LT5 at full song and I doubt I will ever have anything like it again... Sad
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