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Old May 4, 2018 | 04:26 PM
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anyone notice the bottom edge of the side scoop. First time exposed I think! Makes me wonder if the shape we think is there really is?



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anyone notice the bottom edge of the side scoop. First time exposed I think! Makes me wonder if the shape we think is there really is?


Not following you. Are you suggesting the scoop terminates at the bottom of the sill rather than the bottom of the door? And what would this say about the Late Pimp's description and sketch? Not to mention the apparent outline of the scoop in previous spy shots?
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Not following you. Are you suggesting the scoop terminates at the bottom of the sill rather than the bottom of the door? And what would this say about the Late Pimp's description and sketch? Not to mention the apparent outline of the scoop in previous spy shots?
do you see the angled structure to the right of the bottom red line? Unless it is a false structure it may suggest that is where the bottom lead to the scoop begins.

One of pimps earliest descriptions and drawings had a similar start point.
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do you see the angled structure to the right of the bottom red line? Unless it is a false structure it may suggest that is where the bottom lead to the scoop begins.

One of pimps earliest descriptions and drawings had a similar start point.
OK, so give us a drawing, Mr. Big Time Designer!
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do you see the angled structure to the right of the bottom red line? Unless it is a false structure it may suggest that is where the bottom lead to the scoop begins.

One of pimps earliest descriptions and drawings had a similar start point.
That seems to suggest a scoop that covers more real estate--as in the late Pimp's drawings.
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OK, so give us a drawing, Mr. Big Time Designer!
The PINK lines were drawn by Pimp early on. It was confusing then as it is now when trying to reconcile it with the other descriptions.

Leans the opposite direction from the later descriptions.








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The PINK lines were drawn by Pimp early on. It was confusing then as it is now when trying to reconcile it with the other descriptions.

Leans the opposite direction from the later descriptions.







Interesting as hell! Remember I was concerned about "pinch" or lack thereof? Those CAD drawings got pinch up the wazoo!

And if you look at the Late Pimp's sketch, both elements are there--intrusion of scoop down to bottom of sill and tons of pinch.
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I don't see discussions about various features on the car as a "red herring". A red herring would be discussing the road it's driving on.
I don't think the road is, or could be an issue to mislead. If you'd like, you can call it "sleight of hand."

Here's the definition(s) of "red herring":

"something that distracts attention from the real issue" - Merriam-Webster

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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
anyone notice the bottom edge of the side scoop. First time exposed I think! Makes me wonder if the shape we think is there really is?


I see the feature you're describing. It could be the lower edge of the scoop.

This side view I used earlier also shows this black area. When I originally did the outline of the scoop, I assumed it blended into the lower body line.

Looking again, I can see how it might have a larger radius to the lower edge of the scoop to blend into the black area you're describing.



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I don't think the road is, or could be an issue to mislead. If you'd like, you can call it "sleight of hand."

Here's the definition(s) of "red herring":

"something that distracts attention from the real issue" - Merriam-Webster

"something, especially a clue, that is or is intended to be misleading or distracting." - Google
I know what the definition of a red herring is, which is why I explained what would actually be a red herring in this case. We are discussing the entire car, not just whatever piece of it you are personally focused on. We are looking at details in order to discern clues about the appearance and function.

So looking at the top roof panel molding is not a red herring -- it is the point of the discussion. As are all the other partially visible components people are looking at.
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Originally Posted by Speednet
I know what the definition of a red herring is, which is why I explained what would actually be a red herring in this case. We are discussing the entire car, not just whatever piece of it you are personally focused on. We are looking at details in order to discern clues about the appearance and function.

So looking at the top roof panel molding is not a red herring -- it is the point of the discussion. As are all the other partially visible components people are looking at.
The guy was saying that perhaps GM included some of these features (the seam in the weather stripping, etc) as "red herrings" to throw those of us analyzing the photos off the scent.

It's not the discussion of said features that is the red herring, it's the inclusion of the features themselves.

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Or it's just a prototype weather strip which has been pieced together.
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
The PINK lines were drawn by Pimp early on. It was confusing then as it is now when trying to reconcile it with the other descriptions.

Leans the opposite direction from the later descriptions.







That looks a lot like a 650s or 12C intake scoop...
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I think it looks like the front scoops on the SRT Viper but in Reverse
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Not saying its ugly or anything like that, but if someone asked me if this was the new Corvette or the new Acura NSX, I'd be certain its the NSX.
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Not saying its ugly or anything like that, but if someone asked me if this was the new Corvette or the new Acura NSX, I'd be certain its the NSX.
Nobody knows what it looks like. Or doesn't. The renderings on this thread are conjectures. Various impressions, ideas, discernments--synthesized by FVS. We're trying to imagine what it looks like through the padding, canvas, and camo.

Just trying to guess accurately--be the result pleasing or not. A whodunnit. A whatsunderallthat. For fun.

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Originally Posted by Trackaholic
The guy was saying that perhaps GM included some of these features (the seam in the weather stripping, etc) as "red herrings" to throw those of us analyzing the photos off the scent.

It's not the discussion of said features that is the red herring, it's the inclusion of the features themselves.

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Thanks for explaining that, it initially sounded like a complaint about our discussion.

I don't think GM is installing "bad" weatherstripping to throw people off. There's just some things that are difficult for them to hide. Cameras also continue producing sharper photos that can be zoomed in to catch small details that previously would have gone unnoticed.

I think the parts they are worried about hiding are located under the wrap and under the interior mats covering the dash and doors.
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We do not have the final headlights nor tailights, the hood, nor the rear window/deck nailed down, but we have the actual front and rear fascia from the 2 pictures stolen within BGA, and 10 CAD drawings. We also know a hell of a lot from about 60 spy pics (which as pointed out above, are from much better) cameras providing much more detail than we learned in the previous C7 spy pics). And we have detailed input from c7pimp.

The above collectively gives us proportions, basic shapes and much more. And most important to me, when a FVS recent rendering was sent to someone who has stood next to the final/finished car, this person’s response about a month ago, was “pretty close.”

Lacking the items listed in my first sentence which remain camo-hidden, agreed that we do not know 100% of what the car will look like, but do not be surprised if what we see naked is 90+% the same as in FVS’ latest renderings — that when we see the car ourselves we will realize how similar it is, though as FVS also noted, naked it will be better a better, more exciting version of something that is already very familiar to us.
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Originally Posted by Timz16
I don't know how they would do a retractable hardtop, but I guess it is possible. Simpler explanation seems like a manually removable targa top. The latter would keep costs down for the entry level price mark and be consistent with Corvette tradition. My guess is the targa top would be stored under the front hood?
Ferrari with the 458 and 488 have a pretty neat retractable hard top. Consistent with the mules roof lines, and likely vertical rear window and buttresses.




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