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Thanks for sharing. Great info. Will embed it in the page for you:
Thanks much, yeah was definitely on mobile at the time. I think Halltech did pretty well considering the price gap versus the first place corsa intake. Especially interesting that Halltech had the most stock-like flow to help keep fuel trims stable. Sounds like a good base to build on. Really great video over all and will be neat if they keep it updated as more products come to market!
Kudos to Corsa and aFe! These results actually line out pretty close to my expectations after studying all the various designs. Looks like I'll be swapping out my blue aFe filters for the white ones to get that max torque result though. Corsa the clear leader in horsepower but aFe on their coattails at a little more reasonable price and stronger torque...
NIce summary! I was definitely hoping for a bit more gains on the Halltech throughout the curve for sure. But honestly, I just got the car so I haven't even gotten past the honeymoon phase yet. Halltech has been sitting in the box so I can learn to appreciate the car as it came for now. Seems like the Hornet makes most of it's gains near redline (above 6k)
The more I study these charts, the curves with aFe's DryFlowS filters are truly impressive. Fat gains across the entirely of the curve from about 2,200 RPM all the way through redline, both horsepower and torque. Zero drawbacks or losses anywhere! I'm ordering these filters tonight to swap out for my current blue oiled Pro5R ones.
Corsa is very impressive north of 5k RPM; Halltech gives you about 500 RPM worth of fun north of 6k before you hit redline.
It would be so nice to see some track numbers from these intakes. They all perform differently at certain RPM. The AFE intake seems to perform much better than the others for drag racing with that low end bump.
It would be so nice to see some track numbers from these intakes. They all perform differently at certain RPM. The AFE intake seems to perform much better than the others for drag racing with that low end bump.
If someone if going to be living north of 5k RPM, seems like Corsa becomes the clear winner. Maybe that's the ideal choice for the hardcore road-racers? For street use, it's pretty easy to give the nod to aFe ProDryS; not the ultimate top-end, but the clear winner down low and in the mid-range. K&N you unfortunately seem to get exactly what you pay for being the cheapest and most basic design.
When deciding which intake to purchase I was a bit nervous on my decision based on the claimed gains of others, but in the end I am very happy with my decision to stick with my gut and trust my experience and judgement based on decades of previous modifying, dyno'ing, and performing R&D on aftermarket parts. I made the wrong choice on the filters, but luckily that is a quick & easy swap to make, and for $120 I'll consider it a lesson learned and glad it can help others. I should have known better with the ProDryS out-performing the Pro5R both on the C7 Stingray dyno testing and during Paragon's C8 drop-in air filter testing. Bonus: the PryDryS filters better and is easier to clean!
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Rather convenient timing, but I was just on aFe's website to get those ProDryS filters ordered and it appears they have a 23% off sale going right now which puts their intake to "only" $770 making it the 2nd cheapest intake on the market 2nd to only K&N.
Corsa is very impressive north of 5k RPM; Halltech gives you about 500 RPM worth of fun north of 6k before you hit redline.
Yea, it seems Halltech is trying to stick as close to OEM+ as possible. Paragon mentioned they valued 'no MAF issues/CEL' in the design , do you think it was too much of a trade off? AFE seems to be on the other end of that trade off as well
If someone if going to be living north of 5k RPM, seems like Corsa becomes the clear winner. Maybe that's the ideal choice for the hardcore road-racers? For street use, it's pretty easy to give the nod to aFe ProDryS; not the ultimate top-end, but the clear winner down low and in the mid-range. K&N you unfortunately seem to get exactly what you pay for being the cheapest and most basic design.
When deciding which intake to purchase I was a bit nervous on my decision based on the claimed gains of others, but in the end I am very happy with my decision to stick with my gut and trust my experience and judgement based on decades of previous modifying, dyno'ing, and performing R&D on aftermarket parts. I made the wrong choice on the filters, but luckily that is a quick & easy swap to make, and for $120 I'll consider it a lesson learned and glad it can help others. I should have known better with the ProDryS out-performing the Pro5R both on the C7 Stingray dyno testing and during Paragon's C8 drop-in air filter testing. Bonus: the PryDryS filters better and is easier to clean!
***EDIT***
Rather convenient timing, but I was just on aFe's website to get those ProDryS filters ordered and it appears they have a 23% off sale going right now which puts their intake to "only" $770 making it the 2nd cheapest intake on the market 2nd to only K&N.
This is great when only based on one mod alone. Add two or more NA breather mods doesn’t add to the total equation much more if any. Tuning is holding us all back. Sucks.
There was a time when you added all your NA mods together price wise you were in close range of going FI. Not no more. FI for this car is in another realm.
Yea, it seems Halltech is trying to stick as close to OEM+ as possible. Paragon mentioned they valued 'no MAF issues/CEL' in the design , do you think it was too much of a trade off? AFE seems to be on the other end of that trade off as well
Agreed on Halltech more or less just taking the OEM design and enlarging it slightly and it shows with zero peak torque gains which is rather disappointing. Solid gains north of 6k RPM, but how much time does anyone actually spend in that final 500 RPM band?
Regarding the aFe intake, it's definitely a no brainer on which filter set to choose. The dry synthetic filters make more power, have the fattest torque curve, are easier to clean, and do a better job filtering. I've had absolutely no drivability or CEL issues with my aFe intake using blue Pro5R oiled cotton filters which Paragon noted as keeping fuel trims pretty close to stock as well; swapping the filters to the white ProDryS dry synthetic will have no impact on that since the pipe & MAF remain constant.
Both the AttackBlue and aFe ProDryS media are going to filter near par with the OEM paper filter plus are dry so no issues with cotton filter oil fouling the MAF or allowing excess dust particles into the engine. The AttackBlue needs to be cleaned every 10k miles and replaced every 50k miles. The ProDryS should be cleaned every 25k miles and is reusable for lifetime. Both are washable with simple water + dishsoap, or use a ShopVac to vacuum them off between actual washings if you like to keep them flowing near peak.
Big Thanks to paragon for this test. Area under the curve is the most important. At the drag strip 3500 to 6200 is what propels your car. How many hundredths of a second are you in the 6200-6500 rpm range really?
I feel bad for leaving Corsa's offering out of most my comments, but that $1450 price tag is just tough to swallow! I would consider it to be the winner of this test if price is no object and someone truly wants the best option available. They use a dry synthetic media filter similar to the ProDryS but with longer intervals between cleaning @ 50k miles which is equivalent to oiled cotton, the tradeoff being slightly lower filtration efficiency.
Fitment Note on Convertible models:
This item will fit convertible models but is not recommended because the seal trim will not seal properly to the trunk cover. 58-10007R and 58-10007D is preferred for convertible models because the cover in those kits will properly seal the housing.