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Old 06-15-2017, 08:05 AM
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Hi, most of you know that I do a lot of my own repairs. I have a post on rebuilding my distributor going on right now.

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I had ordered from a major vendor a new SHP shaft for my 66 L-79.

I have spent thousands of dollars with them. Their customer service has been great , but I have noticed that they are getting more and more of their products from one major supplier.....quality control seems non existent .

This shaft was the last straw. The following pictures show the new shaft and my old shaft (4 years old) .

Welds poor, weld material left on posts...piece of junk !

Would you put this shaft in your car? Think I would get a good timing curve? lol lol

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You can send it back, get a different one elsewhere or grind it down and hope there is enough 'meat' that the weld holds.

To wit, NO I would not install it in my car Jack...if you are within driving range of the vendor you might take it there and, locate a company representative, and stick it elsewhere though...

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the original GM shafts were copper brazed in a hydrogen atmosphere oven.. if the welds don't interfere with the fit of the other parts it should work

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Someone please tell me how there could not be interference. If the center mess doesn't screw things up then the gob of metal on the left hand pin at the bottom certainly will. Its damned sloppy work.

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For what it's worth, I bought 2 distributor shafts from Paragon over the last 2-3 years and they were of good quality. Not sure what vendor yours came from.

Quality on repro parts seems to be getting worse all the time, and it was mostly poor to begin with. With my manufacturing background, I've thought of setting up to make a lot of the parts I've bought over the years because I know I can do it better. Sadly, everything goes to cost over time, and we all know China and India always win on direct cost.
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the original GM shafts were copper brazed in a hydrogen atmosphere oven.. if the welds don't interfere with the fit of the other parts it should work
Why would I even try to use it, when I can get a quality part at the same price?
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
You can send it back, get a different one elsewhere or grind it down and hope there is enough 'meat' that the weld holds.

To wit, NO I would not install it in my car Jack...if you are within driving range of the vendor you might take it there and, locate a company representative, and stick it elsewhere though...
Hi Frankie,

They will take it back, not a problem. Selling it in the first place is the problem!

Makes no sense , since I can buy a quality part at same price....silly company policy....happens as they get more automated, as no one looks at the product before it is shipped or received in inventory.

The box the shaft came in, had three different labels pasted over each other showing different companies....lol

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That's good. I could just see some naive noobie installing that POS in their car then coming on her complaining about crap performance when he just changed the distributor, points, rotor, plug wires, cap, etc.. Mystified and telling everybody how difficult and unreliable these cars are. All because of a shoddy bit of worksmanship.
Companies that send out this junk don't realize it eventually hits their bottom line..

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That's good. I could just see some naive noobie installing that POS in their car then coming on her complaining about crap performance when he just changed the distributor, points, rotor, plug wires, cap, etc.. Mystified and telling everybody how difficult and unreliable these cars are. All because of a shoddy bit of worksmanship.
Companies that send out this junk don't realize it eventually hits their bottom line..

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Somebody needs to talk to Becky about "alternate career opportunities"...
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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
That's good. I could just see some naive noobie installing that POS in their car then coming on her complaining about crap performance when he just changed the distributor, points, rotor, plug wires, cap, etc.. Mystified and telling everybody how difficult and unreliable these cars are. All because of a shoddy bit of worksmanship.
Companies that send out this junk don't realize it eventually hits their bottom line..

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Good point, but it will never happen. All the newbies I've seen have always, always used 'upgraded' aftermarket electronic ignitions and have gone down the many rabbit holes that that particular modification had opened up for them. Only the seasoned, hardened, jaded old-timers can seem to get them to work properly!!
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The X2113 distributor shaft is a part that is being made by Corvette America, or more correctly, is a part that they're having made. I've bought 5 or 6 of them, but never got one that looked like yours?

What I find interesting is the vendor who sold it to you, lists it as the 62-74 hi-po shaft, but Corvette America sells it as the base shaft.
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Jack may need to source his parts a little closer to home..........like maybe New York.

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Originally Posted by gbvette62
The X2113 distributor shaft is a part that is being made by Corvette America, or more correctly, is a part that they're having made. I've bought 5 or 6 of them, but never got one that looked like yours?

What I find interesting is the vendor who sold it to you, lists it as the 62-74 hi-po shaft, but Corvette America sells it as the base shaft.
Good reason to send it back, but the point is, lack of quality control and inhouse knowledge.

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Originally Posted by powershift
jack may need to source his parts a little closer to home..........like maybe new york. :d

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Originally Posted by Frankie the Fink
Somebody needs to talk to Becky about "alternate career opportunities"...
Somebody needs to talk Becky's SUPERVISOR about "alternate career opportunities though, it will probably do no good.

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I just rebuilt this distributor for someone with a 71 Vette.
The shaft I installed looks similar to yours and after the rebuild I was able to set the curve and it ran up to 5000 RPM on my machine with no problems.
He installed it in his car and said the car never ran better.
The weld does not interfere with anything.
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Jack's might work, I still say its a pretty sorry looking affair...
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Originally Posted by plaidside
I just rebuilt this distributor for someone with a 71 Vette.
The shaft I installed looks similar to yours and after the rebuild I was able to set the curve and it ran up to 5000 RPM on my machine with no problems.
He installed it in his car and said the car never ran better.
The weld does not interfere with anything.
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never use that plastic advance limiter as they can fall off. if you do track days I have seen that detonate a engine when it fell off. if the pin has a groove on the bottom of the pin use a external snap ring to hold it in place.
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Originally Posted by PAmotorman
never use that plastic advance limiter as they can fall off. if you do track days I have seen that detonate a engine when it fell off. if the pin has a groove on the bottom of the pin use a external snap ring to hold it in place.
But, will add to that. Do not to use anything but a BRASS advance limiter. Pin or no pin that plastic is going to degrade over time due to heat exposure.

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