VENOM ACR

So I'm thinking of doing some power mods to the car. Unfortunately, I have no clue what the best combo is.

I see setups like full long tube headers with an exhaust system. Mid length headers with x pipe and exhaust system. Just an x pipe. Just an exhaust. Just headers.

What I'm trying trying to figure out what is the best route. Right now the car has NPP exhaust. How is that when adding headers and x pipe? Would a Borla or Corsa be better? Is the exhaust to restrictive? Is it better to go full length headers right up to NPP or should I go mid length headers with x pipe to exhaust.

Some ideas and input would be appreciated.

pocketrocket

All good questions. Check out American Racing Headers website and if you have more questions call them. They are very helpful.

bigsapper

Full long tubes with catless x-pipe. Keep your NPP exhaust.

My 2 shekels.

BlackMoon

I'm just looking for an x pipe at this point or was wondering if you can gyt the stock pipe so subscribing to this thread.

I just got the car so I'll be reading all the posts I can find here first but wouldn't mind hearing the answer early. Thanks

VENOM ACR

I guess my question is, (example) is it better to buy an entire LT header setup from Kooks and attach it to the NPP OR is is better to buy lets say ARH mid length, Borla X-Pipe, and hook it to NPP. Or is it basically a wash. Is either setup cheaper? I see full length headers going for $1800+. Is the NPP restrictive? Would I get more gains with a Borla exhaust?

BuckeyeNation

Correct! There are a lot of choices but go with a full longtube system. Off road/Cattless mids and keep your npp. I have the Texas speed with catless and npp. Car sounds amazing at wot. No need to worry about which system is better, they are all really good with the exception on some of the eBay off brands. Lastly, catless will emit a gas smell so you gotta think about that. It is only a minor issue in my book compared to the glorious sounds. But to each it's own.

lakemg

Do you plan to tune the car to wring out all available horsepower from the header mod, if you were to add headers?

I went with Kooks long tubes + their green cats + Kooks x-pipe dumping into my stock NPP mufflers. The fit and finish is great. The cars sound perfect to me. I don't smell like gas/exhaust fumes when I'm done driving it (thanks to the cats). I didn't have to tune out a CEL because the green cats prevent a CEL. I didn't want to tune it due to it being a high risk of warranty rejection (my opinion). I will tune it once the warranty has expired. I really only wanted the headers/high flow cats for improved exhaust sound. So it really depends on what your end goal is.

You really can't go wrong with the Kooks, ARH, Texas Speed (Chinese made if that matters), and a few other popular brands out there. I think ARH now offers the green cats too, so I would likely have gone with them, had they offered them when I was shopping. With that said, I have no regrets with the Kooks.

On edit: Not my video, but is from a member on this forum giving a nice comparison of the Kooks catted vs non-catted system. Personally, from the video, I can't tell a big difference in sound, but have to believe that the catless would be a little bit louder, but doesn't sound like it's a night and day difference between the two.

cv67

Surprised, like the sound of the cats better still can hear that deep guttural sound of the intake. Was raised on double pumpers though...either one sound tough at the end of the day.
OP just about any long tube header/exh is going to be fine there isnt really much difference other than tone which is usually mufflers.

davidtcpa

Any major brand of headers will do. Kooks, ARH, Billy Boat....

tyho

I went with ARH mid length with the high flow cats, catless Borla x-pipe and B & B bullets with the NPP deleted. I had the car tuned (didn't really want to but I added a Halltech cai so the cel came up)and deleted and removed the AFM valves as well. Sounds great and not too loud unless you floor it.