Supercharged LS3 Cam: BTR LS3 vs. Cam Motion
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
Supercharged LS3 Cam: BTR LS3 vs. Cam Motion
Facts: 2012 Grand Sport A6, A&A V3 Ti w/meth.
Drive the car 2-3k miles a season, mostly weekend cruises with other cars doing some "spirited" driving, and started to take it to the drags a few times a month and want to go faster.
Own but not yet installed: Circle D Pro Billet 3400 Triple Disk stall, Innovators West 10%OD damper
Plans to cam and stall my car over the off-season here up in Western New York, and am looking for any recommendations based on experience running the Brian Tooley LS3 Supercharged camshaft https://www.briantooleyracing.com/bt...-camshaft.html or any of the bigger Cam Motion Supercharged LS camshafts http://www.cammotion.com/camshafts/s...-ls-camshafts/
CM has some bigger cams and I'm curious how they are in the car, surging at all past a stall, losing low-end power, etc. The BTR cam specs run 22X/24X .61X"/.59X" 115+5, I want it to chop hard without sacrificing too much down low and driveability. Cam Motion has a 232/365-XA248/355-116+5 or a bigger 236/365-XA252/355-116+5 but I wouldn't want to regret getting something too big that it's annoying.
Any help/opinions welcome! Thanks
Drive the car 2-3k miles a season, mostly weekend cruises with other cars doing some "spirited" driving, and started to take it to the drags a few times a month and want to go faster.
Own but not yet installed: Circle D Pro Billet 3400 Triple Disk stall, Innovators West 10%OD damper
Plans to cam and stall my car over the off-season here up in Western New York, and am looking for any recommendations based on experience running the Brian Tooley LS3 Supercharged camshaft https://www.briantooleyracing.com/bt...-camshaft.html or any of the bigger Cam Motion Supercharged LS camshafts http://www.cammotion.com/camshafts/s...-ls-camshafts/
CM has some bigger cams and I'm curious how they are in the car, surging at all past a stall, losing low-end power, etc. The BTR cam specs run 22X/24X .61X"/.59X" 115+5, I want it to chop hard without sacrificing too much down low and driveability. Cam Motion has a 232/365-XA248/355-116+5 or a bigger 236/365-XA252/355-116+5 but I wouldn't want to regret getting something too big that it's annoying.
Any help/opinions welcome! Thanks
#2
Burning Brakes
Very easy with even stock cam. Just let's tune it idle very low.
Same with performance cams.
That's what tuning mostly is.
It's not just about what camshaft you selected, but of course it is more challenging when cams are very aggressive.
So with cam choice, pick your tuner as well, because you just can't run the engine without proper tuning.
Same with performance cams.
That's what tuning mostly is.
It's not just about what camshaft you selected, but of course it is more challenging when cams are very aggressive.
So with cam choice, pick your tuner as well, because you just can't run the engine without proper tuning.
#3
I have a custom blower cam from cam motion on my C6z/procharger set up. I’m pretty sure BTR is using cam motion cores now. I went with cam motion for the core choices. I have the 8620. Call them and ask for Bob if you chose that’s route, or if you want BTR spec it for you that’s cool too, fairly certain they use CM’s **** now. I know I00% if you request the cam motion 8620’core BTR will use it and spec it out for you. Let me know if you want idle clips/cold start or it just raising complete chaos on the street.
#4
Pro
@BlacknBluC6 What numbers did you out down with and without meth. I just installed a similar set up and looking to go cam with a 3200 stall down the road. I'm in line for more of a stealth cam vs the chain saw chop.
#5
Team Owner
BTR is one of the top LS cam people around. They know their stuff. Cam motion makes a quality product, but I would take Brian's choice of cam any day. In fact I had BTR spec my cam, and then cut on a cam motion core through them. So it doesn't have to be one or the other.
BTR uses comp and cam motion. Comps new surface treatment stuff is badass and they are really pushing ahead in LS stuff. Would have no issues running a comp.
BTR uses comp and cam motion. Comps new surface treatment stuff is badass and they are really pushing ahead in LS stuff. Would have no issues running a comp.
#6
Instructor
Thread Starter
@BlacknBluC6 What numbers did you out down with and without meth. I just installed a similar set up and looking to go cam with a 3200 stall down the road. I'm in line for more of a stealth cam vs the chain saw chop.
I ended up buying the LS3 blower cam from BTR - should have some nice chop but not radical. Still have nothing installed as of today, though.