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Does anyone have any good recommendations on aftermarket set ups that would mimic what the PDR does? Exotic Racing in Las Vegas has a pretty good set up. I wonder if I gave a call over if they would let me know what they use. Anyone have something set up like this?
I would really prefer something that is kind of permanent as opposed to suction cup camera cameras under the window or body
It isn't a permanent install but I use the Track Addict App from HP Tuners. I link it to my MPVI to data log car information and then use their Race Render Software to edit that info with my Insta360 Camera and GoPro video. The end result looks like this.
It isn't a permanent install but I use the Track Addict App from HP Tuners. I link it to my MPVI to data log car information and then use their Race Render Software to edit that info with my Insta360 Camera and GoPro video. The end result looks like this.
AIM SmartyCam and Datalogger package.
Overlays the data with the video, automatically synchronized.
What he said...been running a Smartycam and Solo DL for several years. Solid no fuss completely automatic video capture with overlays and data. Not a bad deal if go used.
I've also used Track Addict a long time. It's kind of in between all diy and the expensive full auto type systems. You still need to do some parts yourself and I've used it without the MPVI interface too. You'll lose OBD data but can place a camera to see the dash etc.
What do you want out of a data logging system? Video with overlays only VS. performance data (i.e. the Driver - speed, braking, lat/log G, track map) VS. Full data (Driver and Car - temps, RPMs, etc) VS. everything? Your answer will dictate the tool and the cost.
I've since sold the car but I did have a full AIM system in a race car and was thoroughly impressed. It had full race dash, GPS, OBDII data, bullet cam, the works. Not only does AIM offer many different hardware options at different price points but they have excellent software and, more importantly, tons and tons of tutorials for how to use it. AIM is widely used so sharing data amongst friends is common - a great way to learn why your buddy is faster in certain corners than you are.
Check out AiM Sports, LLC channel on YouTube - they have about 300 videos
What do you want out of a data logging system? Video with overlays only VS. performance data (i.e. the Driver - speed, braking, lat/log G, track map) VS. Full data (Driver and Car - temps, RPMs, etc) VS. everything? Your answer will dictate the tool and the cost.
I've since sold the car but I did have a full AIM system in a race car and was thoroughly impressed. It had full race dash, GPS, OBDII data, bullet cam, the works. Not only does AIM offer many different hardware options at different price points but they have excellent software and, more importantly, tons and tons of tutorials for how to use it. AIM is widely used so sharing data amongst friends is common - a great way to learn why your buddy is faster in certain corners than you are.
Check out AiM Sports, LLC channel on YouTube - they have about 300 videos
Thank you, I will check out AIM Sports.
looking for video, input on the driver throttle, brake etc. Track overlay would be nice as well. Someone I co-drove with at auto Cross once had a system that did all of this, plus you were able to overlay his run with mine and I could see where he was gaining time on me and in the rare occurrence is vice versa. I should reach out to him too and ask what he’s using, if I recall correctly, it was piece together from different systems. Obviously the software was the most important tool.
Is this for a C8? If so not as easy as it was to do on C6/C7 to get the data. Requires splicing into wires under the dash to get the same amount of data as the OE PDR does.
Sound was bad since that car still had a stock muffler and the camera being mounted against the rear window without a remote mic.
Which logger/display you chose depends where you want to mount it. You'll be drilling holes in the dash pad to mount the bigger ones and make it more permanent.
Garmin Catalyst or an AIM Solo 2 DL with smartycam setup...
Garmin is going to be the best "bang for the buck" but doesnt have throttle and brake although you can infer that from the g meter. The coaching leaves a bit to be desired as its AI engine is only comparing you to you. if you are slow you will always be slow, just consistently slow LOL. Ive got a Garmin, its fine, but I likely dont use 70% of its features.
I have looked into getting more data into my space, but as an amateur I would honestly have no clue what to do with it. Brake pressure sounds cool, but not sure how to interpret it to go faster. Throttle %, again, sounds cool, but not sure how to use it effectively... I am sure there are people out there who CAN use and teach people how to go faster with said data, but thats not me. I also doubt I have the fine motor skills in my feet to go say 5 or 10% more or less brake pressure or say 55 vs. 60% throttle. I think it takes somebody who really really knows what they are looking at as well as having ridden or driven your car to be able to sync up those metrics with the track and tell you "brake later and harder here" "get back in the throttle later, but a little less" or "you're coasting a lot" etc... But a good coach doesnt need data to tell you those things.
Before you go into data overload that you have no clue how to use, I would ask yourself that question "how can/do I use this data to go faster"...
Im more convinced that getting an excellent coach in your car at least once a year or so will make you far better than data you dont know what to do with. Or taking some advanced classes at your local track.
Is this for a C8? If so not as easy as it was to do on C6/C7 to get the data. Requires splicing into wires under the dash to get the same amount of data as the OE PDR does.
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Thats great info. Thanks. I won’t be splicing wires.
Originally Posted by rjacobs
Garmin Catalyst or an AIM Solo 2 DL with smartycam setup...
Garmin is going to be the best "bang for the buck" but doesnt have throttle and brake although you can infer that from the g meter. The coaching leaves a bit to be desired as its AI engine is only comparing you to you. if you are slow you will always be slow, just consistently slow LOL. Ive got a Garmin, its fine, but I likely dont use 70% of its features.
I have looked into getting more data into my space, but as an amateur I would honestly have no clue what to do with it. Brake pressure sounds cool, but not sure how to interpret it to go faster. Throttle %, again, sounds cool, but not sure how to use it effectively... I am sure there are people out there who CAN use and teach people how to go faster with said data, but thats not me. I also doubt I have the fine motor skills in my feet to go say 5 or 10% more or less brake pressure or say 55 vs. 60% throttle. I think it takes somebody who really really knows what they are looking at as well as having ridden or driven your car to be able to sync up those metrics with the track and tell you "brake later and harder here" "get back in the throttle later, but a little less" or "you're coasting a lot" etc... But a good coach doesnt need data to tell you those things.
Before you go into data overload that you have no clue how to use, I would ask yourself that question "how can/do I use this data to go faster"...
Im more convinced that getting an excellent coach in your car at least once a year or so will make you far better than data you dont know what to do with. Or taking some advanced classes at your local track.
Just my 2c.
Thanks. I have friend who’s been coaching me. Thus far he uses the data. We used his set up when he car drives with me. However, when he has his own car or code drives with somebody else, then of course he’s using it on that vehicle. The braking data has been the most helpful, other than the lines I’m following.
I'm currently using a DJI Osmo Action 5 Pro. I've used Insta360 before as well, and worked great. GoPro cameras usually start panning too much with G forces, and video becomes weird; perhaps new ones have it fixed. Whatever camera you use, you should reduce the exposure since inside of the car is dark, which prompts camera to increase exposure, but that means the outside view gets washed out. That video above was with setting EV = -1.
Good quality GPS transponder (Racebox mini s in this case).
VBox HD is the best in my opinion. Not cheap, but can monitor many streams AND their Circuit Tools software is excellent. To my knowledge, it's the only tool that allows you to run two laps (the one you want to evaluate, a reference lap) side by side with video overlaps and streaming overlays. So, if you get a coach or better driver or your best from a prior event at that track to set a reference lap, it makes it completely clear where you are losing time and why. Excellent tool!
If you want to work on the weakest part in the car focus on the nut behind the wheel.