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I’ve got a 26 Z06 with Z07 package and I’m still trying to figure this monster out, both launch settings and now PTM settings for a race course. I’m trying to find the time and track days for Barbour Motor Speedway here in Alabama and wondering what PTM setting I should use. PTM Race Pro, PTM Race 1 or PTM Race 2. Let’s start by saying I’m no pro obviously but I’ve driven on a course before in an older C7 years ago. So I’m not completely green and consider myself a pretty good driver, that being said I know I’m not going all out ***** to the wall in Race Pro but I will push myself and the car to what is my comfortable limit. Can anyone give me some recommendations on what setting ? I’m running the 4s tires as
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I’ve got a 26 Z06 with Z07 package and I’m still trying to figure this monster out, both launch settings and now PTM settings for a race course. I’m trying to find the time and track days for Barbour Motor Speedway here in Alabama and wondering what PTM setting I should use. PTM Race Pro, PTM Race 1 or PTM Race 2. Let’s start by saying I’m no pro obviously but I’ve driven on a course before in an older C7 years ago. So I’m not completely green and consider myself a pretty good driver, that being said I know I’m not going all out ***** to the wall in Race Pro but I will push myself and the car to what is my comfortable limit. Can anyone give me some recommendations on what setting ? I’m running the 4s tires as
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I would strongly recommend just starting in "Track"
All the other variations you describe limit traction control in some way....
Not something you want with 670hp, particularly on PS4S, on your first day out...
I just ran my first track day in a 26 Z07 on PS4S, it was a bit of a "handful"....
The Z07 is looking for Cup2R levels of grip...
My history is 100's of track days in Porsche GT cars, I run in the fastest groups, below instructor...
I think a Pro level driver could easily manage this, I have seen some great drives at Sebring on PS4S, but well above my job grade...
YMMV
Cheers!
So, I disagree with BAW some, i would use a PTM mode and not just "track" with full traction control/ESC on. If you are driving the car hard at all on a race track (not the street), standard TC will interfere with you in the wrong way. PTM modes will still assist, just in a more track friendly manner.
The PTM modes are Wet, Dry, Sport, Race 1, Race 2, and now Pro. Pro in the non "X" cars, is essentially everything off. Note that the last 3 (Race 1, 2, and Pro) turn off all Stability Control and only leaves traction management on. I would absolutely not start with ESC off the first time out in this car unless you are an advanced level driver. No offense to the OP but "I've driven on a course years ago" does not scream advanced driver to me. The good news is, you can change it in-session very easily. I strongly recommend you start in dry. If you have any reasonable pace, it will interfere too much. If you know what it is interfering and how to correct it, it is time to go to Sport. As beginning to intermediate driver, Sport is probably a great place to be. Are there some corners it really interferes with on some tracks? Absolutely. Does it hold an advanced driver back some? Also, yes, for sure. But with ESC on, it is still way safer, and I would suspect an intermediate driver is not losing much time in a trade of. An Advance driver is going to want Race 1, 2 or Pro depending upon the driver, track, weather, etc. But there is zero reason to start there first time out in the car and not having been on track for "years".
Start in Dry. Graduate to Sport when ready. After you have some seat time in the car, and know what it is doing, it might be time to try Race 1, as long as you understand there is nothing to save you there from spinning or more. (I've spun in Sport as well, so as we know, ESC is not going to save you from every problem).
So, I disagree with BAW some, i would use a PTM mode and not just "track" with full traction control/ESC on. If you are driving the car hard at all on a race track (not the street), standard TC will interfere with you in the wrong way. PTM modes will still assist, just in a more track friendly manner.
The PTM modes are Wet, Dry, Sport, Race 1, Race 2, and now Pro. Pro in the non "X" cars, is essentially everything off. Note that the last 3 (Race 1, 2, and Pro) turn off all Stability Control and only leaves traction management on. I would absolutely not start with ESC off the first time out in this car unless you are an advanced level driver. No offense to the OP but "I've driven on a course years ago" does not scream advanced driver to me. The good news is, you can change it in-session very easily. I strongly recommend you start in dry. If you have any reasonable pace, it will interfere too much. If you know what it is interfering and how to correct it, it is time to go to Sport. As beginning to intermediate driver, Sport is probably a great place to be. Are there some corners it really interferes with on some tracks? Absolutely. Does it hold an advanced driver back some? Also, yes, for sure. But with ESC on, it is still way safer, and I would suspect an intermediate driver is not losing much time in a trade of. An Advance driver is going to want Race 1, 2 or Pro depending upon the driver, track, weather, etc. But there is zero reason to start there first time out in the car and not having been on track for "years".
Start in Dry. Graduate to Sport when ready. After you have some seat time in the car, and know what it is doing, it might be time to try Race 1, as long as you understand there is nothing to save you there from spinning or more. (I've spun in Sport as well, so as we know, ESC is not going to save you from every problem).
To add to this PTM modes (everything above Wet) also changes the e-diff. modes, which are ONLY unlocked in the PTM modes. This e-diff. mode helps you get around corners quicker. I believe it loosens up the lockup point, as having an open diff. is actually a benefit when trying to get around a corner. You notice this the most in the lower speed tight corners rather than the high speed sweepers though.
Rather than locking up so soon, which locks the TQ on both side for traction, but also causes the rear to step out if you break traction, while in the more open diff. setting it allows the left and right side tire to work more independently and allow the difference speeds that each wheels sees as you are navigating the tighter corners. It might even over drive one wheel more than the other, but I am not sure if that is true. What I do know is that you can take right corners quicker without the rear stepping out in the PTM modes because of this different e-diff. setting.
This is exactly what kind of feedback I’m looking for. Just understanding everything that this car can do is what I’m trying to learn. I know that having it in some PTM setting would be better than none. Even if I had it in wet. Also I’ve been looking at getting another set of wheels and tires specifically for track days. Whether I find the lightest and strongest wheels with Cup 2s or put Cup 2s back on the cf factory wheels and put P4s on a new set of wheels for every day use. Or is there a better tire than the Cup 2 for the track? Thanks for the input, looks like I should start at the top settings and work my way down as I progress. Because this car is truly a monster when it’s set on PTM Pro, hence the reason I only got 2700 miles on the Cup 2s it came with
This is exactly what kind of feedback I’m looking for. Just understanding everything that this car can do is what I’m trying to learn. I know that having it in some PTM setting would be better than none. Even if I had it in wet. Also I’ve been looking at getting another set of wheels and tires specifically for track days. Whether I find the lightest and strongest wheels with Cup 2s or put Cup 2s back on the cf factory wheels and put P4s on a new set of wheels for every day use. Or is there a better tire than the Cup 2 for the track? Thanks for the input, looks like I should start at the top settings and work my way down as I progress. Because this car is truly a monster when it’s set on PTM Pro, hence the reason I only got 2700 miles on the Cup 2s it came with
Some really good input here!
When you come from the Porsche world, you basically have TC/ESC on or off....
For tires, if you follow the MVEZ Clubsport threads he is dong a lot of experimenting and has some great tire recommendations.
For me I am awaiting the Hoosier TAP, which should be available soon in our sizes...
Cheers!
One should not even consider using the Pro setting unless one has 1000s of laps at a track with 1000s of laps with the car unless you really are a "Pro" track driver. I race in the SCCA with a race car without any traction control/stability control. I do 40 track days a year with my 3 C8 Z06s and 1 C8 ZR1. I do not/will not use the Pro setting and probably never will with the amount of hp these cars put out. Wise track participants know their own limits and the cars limits--figure these out first before getting to brave on the advanced PTM setting!
Originally Posted by Rifleman6.6
This is exactly what kind of feedback I’m looking for. Just understanding everything that this car can do is what I’m trying to learn. I know that having it in some PTM setting would be better than none. Even if I had it in wet. Also I’ve been looking at getting another set of wheels and tires specifically for track days. Whether I find the lightest and strongest wheels with Cup 2s or put Cup 2s back on the cf factory wheels and put P4s on a new set of wheels for every day use. Or is there a better tire than the Cup 2 for the track? Thanks for the input, looks like I should start at the top settings and work my way down as I progress. Because this car is truly a monster when it’s set on PTM Pro, hence the reason I only got 2700 miles on the Cup 2s it came with
One should not even consider using the Pro setting unless one has 1000s of laps at a track with 1000s of laps with the car unless you really are a "Pro" track driver. I race in the SCCA with a race car without any traction control/stability control. I do 40 track days a year with my 3 C8 Z06s and 1 C8 ZR1. I do not/will not use the Pro setting and probably never will with the amount of hp these cars put out. Wise track participants know their own limits and the cars limits--figure these out first before getting to brave on the advanced PTM setting!
This is exactly what kind of feedback I’m looking for. Just understanding everything that this car can do is what I’m trying to learn. I know that having it in some PTM setting would be better than none. Even if I had it in wet. Also I’ve been looking at getting another set of wheels and tires specifically for track days. Whether I find the lightest and strongest wheels with Cup 2s or put Cup 2s back on the cf factory wheels and put P4s on a new set of wheels for every day use. Or is there a better tire than the Cup 2 for the track? Thanks for the input, looks like I should start at the top settings and work my way down as I progress. Because this car is truly a monster when it’s set on PTM Pro, hence the reason I only got 2700 miles on the Cup 2s it came with
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For Z06 (non-Z07) with PS4S, I run ZMode with everything except brakes in Track. I prefer Brakes in Sport as running them in Track kills all feel. For PTM, I typically start with Sport at the beginning of the day/weekend, then move up to Race 1.
PTM settings for race course setup
