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Hi Everyone. I'm a long time lurker here. I have a question about the visual inspections that are done when you smog you car in California. Most smog shops open up the engine compartment to do a visual inspection. How does that work on the HTC. Is the smog shop going to remove the engine cover to do their visual inspection? If so would it be better if I removed the cover so they don't have to. Thanks for you help.
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They won't remove the cover.
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I was curious about the same question the OP asks.
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The sticker they check for smog compliance is on top of the plastic cover toward the passenger rear corner of the engine bay. I found this out the hard way after spending 20 minutes in the DMV lot unscrewing and removing the engine bay plastics only for the inspector to find the sticker where I described.
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Originally Posted by Rodneye
Hi Everyone. I'm a long time lurker here. I have a question about the visual inspections that are done when you smog you car in California. Most smog shops open up the engine compartment to do a visual inspection. How does that work on the HTC. Is the smog shop going to remove the engine cover to do their visual inspection? If so would it be better if I removed the cover so they don't have to. Thanks for you help.
They are looking CA emissions sticker which is right on top of the plastic cover in the engine bay. You should see the sticker once you open the truck. Mine is located on the passenger side.

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I'm in Elk Grove California and the smog shop charged extra to take the cover off for inspection.
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I'm in Elk Grove California and the smog shop charged extra to take the cover off for inspection.
I was wondering if test stations were going to do that. Their license is on the line and they are required to do a visual inspection of the engine.
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I was wondering if test stations were going to do that. Their license is on the line and they are required to do a visual inspection of the engine.
The first shop I took it to refused to do it, they said it would need to go to a specialty shop as they did not want to be responsible if any damage occurred with them removing that panel and scratching the car, etc. The second shop told me that they could do the inspection but they needed to remove the panel and it would be an extra $50 to cover their time for removal and re-installing.
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The first shop I took it to refused to do it, they said it would need to go to a specialty shop as they did not want to be responsible if any damage occurred with them removing that panel and scratching the car, etc. The second shop told me that they could do the inspection but they needed to remove the panel and it would be an extra $50 to cover their time for removal and re-installing.
I wonder if they would accept looking through a clear aftermarket engine cover...
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Interesting topic... how is a visual inspection done on a new 911? Similar with panels needing removal or the car lifted?
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Originally Posted by RKCRLR
I wonder if they would accept looking through a clear aftermarket engine cover...
In all honesty, I think it depends on the tech and their level of experience. Over the years on other cars I've had some people that just plug in the OBD2 scanner and do a 30 second once over with the hood popped then I've had techs that spent 15 plus minutes with a flashlight and then put it on a lift. I've even had a guy that told me my stock manifolds on a new Mazda MX-5 I had were aftermarket and failed me because he had never inspected a Miata before and couldn't find the EGR.
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Gotta luv California laws. One of our cars didn't pass because it sat for years and we were going to reregister it for my niece. Tech told me for $250 in cash, he can fix it. Five minutes later, the car magically passed...
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Originally Posted by 03Zcrit
In all honesty, I think it depends on the tech and their level of experience. Over the years on other cars I've had some people that just plug in the OBD2 scanner and do a 30 second once over with the hood popped then I've had techs that spent 15 plus minutes with a flashlight and then put it on a lift. I've even had a guy that told me my stock manifolds on a new Mazda MX-5 I had were aftermarket and failed me because he had never inspected a Miata before and couldn't find the EGR.
I had a smog station fail my K3500 because they said it had an aftermarket smog pump filter. I had to go to the dealer and get a parts printout of the components to show it was stock on my particular VIN. Then they passed it.

On the other hand the Air Resources Board sets up sting operations for these guys so I can understand why some are gun shy.
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I just realized you meant a visual inspection at a smog test shop. Yes, you will have to remove the engine cover. After the DMV (which only inspected for a sticker on the cover like I stated prior, not the engine) I had to go to a referee and they had to inspect the actual engine. I should up with all but four screws removed which were only hand tight so I could quickly pop it off. The guy also took pics of it on his phone to personall keep because he was mesmerized by the mid-engine lol.
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FYI: Here's an A.I. answer:

1. California Smog Test DOES NOT Require Removing Panels

This is the key point most owners don’t know:

A smog tech is not allowed to remove body panels, undertrays, engine covers, or any part that requires tools.

BAR rules classify that as disassembly, which is prohibited during a standard Smog Check.

So:
  • They will not remove the C8 HTC’s rear service panel
  • They will not remove a Porsche 911’s upper engine shrouds
  • They cannot charge extra to remove panels
  • They must perform the inspection without disassembly
If a component is not visible without removing parts, the tech simply marks it as “Not Visible – Not Accessible” in the inspection software.

This is normal and fully compliant.
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Originally Posted by Kenny94945
FYI: Here's an A.I. answer:

1. California Smog Test DOES NOT Require Removing Panels

This is the key point most owners don’t know:

A smog tech is not allowed to remove body panels, undertrays, engine covers, or any part that requires tools.

BAR rules classify that as disassembly, which is prohibited during a standard Smog Check.

So:
  • They will not remove the C8 HTC’s rear service panel
  • They will not remove a Porsche 911’s upper engine shrouds
  • They cannot charge extra to remove panels
  • They must perform the inspection without disassembly
If a component is not visible without removing parts, the tech simply marks it as “Not Visible – Not Accessible” in the inspection software.

This is normal and fully compliant.
I wouldn't trust this AI answer.
I had an older Class C van type motorhome with a removable cover in the cab and had to pay extra every time I got it smogged because of that. There are a lot of vehicles out there that you have to remove a cover to access the engine and I can't imagine it would allow you to get away without a visual engine inspection, that could really get abused. This might be the difference between Test Only and Test and Repair stations. Test and Repair stations can do mechanical work and you may be forced to go to a Test and Repair station if a Test Only station isn't allowed to use tools.
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The reason I asked this question is I have a 2025 and wont be going to a smog station for 4 more years. If the smog station is not allowed to take off the cover what would stop me from installing a oil catch can and a cold air intake. Both would pass the emissions part but would fail the visual inspection.
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