TERRIBLE ON-GOING EXPERIENCE WITH: Mark Dawson aka VNM
04-20-2005, 12:32 PM
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hmmmm..I believe you are not the first one to complain..if you look back thru this section there is a post from them expalining why they were having issues which were supposedly resolved....apparently not.....good luck man
04-20-2005, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by georgec114
OK, then what would be the reason?
Did he forget?
Is someone else holding up the deal?
If so, a reassuring communication would be in order.
Actually, I would almost prefer that lack of funds would be the
reason. At least I would feel somewhat better that I'm not getting
screwed because he's an A-hole. I'm not name-calling here, just
using this as an example.
If he has bad dealings with his vendors (IE, the powder coater)
and doesn't pay his bills, there could be an issue there as well.
As said, you may be a perfectly satisfied customer and based on
that, you have every good intention of supporting him.
As with me for example, there were plenty of very happy customers
of Warranty Gold with their extended warranty coverage.
I, on the other hand, got taken for $1400 and no coverage.
So based on others' recommendations, all should have been OK.
...George
Did he forget?
Is someone else holding up the deal?
If so, a reassuring communication would be in order.
Actually, I would almost prefer that lack of funds would be the
reason. At least I would feel somewhat better that I'm not getting
screwed because he's an A-hole. I'm not name-calling here, just
using this as an example.
If he has bad dealings with his vendors (IE, the powder coater)
and doesn't pay his bills, there could be an issue there as well.
As said, you may be a perfectly satisfied customer and based on
that, you have every good intention of supporting him.
As with me for example, there were plenty of very happy customers
of Warranty Gold with their extended warranty coverage.
I, on the other hand, got taken for $1400 and no coverage.
So based on others' recommendations, all should have been OK.
...George
There is no excuse for a time lapse of this nature/length-PERIOD!!!!
04-20-2005, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jrc27
Ok, so has anyone actually heard from mark in the last couple of weeks. Maybe something serious happened 
I've sent Mark an e-mail asking him what's up on this unresolved issue as well as on his use of the Forum for commercial sales. It was my impression that his supporting vendor relationship with the Forum ended on Aug. 27, 2004.
Meanwhile, please be reminded that Forum rules allow for the factual posting of an unresolved dispute with another member or a vendor so long as every effort has been made to resolve the issue offline first.
Once the factual post has been made, moderators try to leave it open until anyone with first-hand knowledge has a chance to offer his/her version of the facts.
Once that has been done, the thread is locked and goes into the archives where it is available for review at any time in the future.
Moderators will lock a dispute thread before all sides have given their set of facts if the thread becomes a bash-fest or it becomes a running and repetitive debate.
04-20-2005, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by savewave
I've sent Mark an e-mail asking him what's up on this unresolved issue as well as on his use of the Forum for commercial sales. It was my impression that his supporting vendor relationship with the Forum ended on Aug. 27, 2004.
Meanwhile, please be reminded that Forum rules allow for the factual posting of an unresolved dispute with another member or a vendor so long as every effort has been made to resolve the issue offline first.
Once the factual post has been made, moderators try to leave it open until anyone with first-hand knowledge has a chance to offer his/her version of the facts.
Once that has been done, the thread is locked and goes into the archives where it is available for review at any time in the future.
Moderators will lock a dispute thread before all sides have given their set of facts if the thread becomes a bash-fest or it becomes a running and repetitive debate.
I believe this thread is a perfect example of informing and "statement
of fact" as I've ever seen on this forum.
And commissuration here, is often our only outlet to vent.
Besides, it far less expensive than a psychologist.
...George
04-20-2005, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by savewave
Meanwhile, please be reminded that Forum rules allow for the factual posting of an unresolved dispute with another member or a vendor so long as every effort has been made to resolve the issue offline first.
Here are THE FACTS:
- I ordered rotors for my ZR-1 during the January GP that Mark Dawson posted on the forum as a vendor . It is nearly 3 months since the order was placed.
- He has had my PayPal now for several weeks.
- I have called and email several times. Sometimes I get an answer, most of the time I do not.
- He always has some excuse as to why my rotors haven't been shipped (vendor can't provide blanks, fired my daughter, zinc coating isn't good, can't find J55 front blanks....etc., etc.).
- He (or his worker) also has told me more than once that the rotors, "Will be FedEx in the morning!"
- As of last week I asked for a refund during a phonecall and was told, "Will be FedEx soon....."
Again - THE FACTS - Mark Dawson entered into this forum with an offer for a Group Purchase for items (and this is important) that HE DID NOT HAVE!
I have given up on having these rotors anytime soon....., if ever!
DMark
04-20-2005, 01:38 PM
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Pewter99 - Unfortunately, I am intimately familiar with previously posted explanations.
Grinder11 - My business is also non-automotive but I very much share your work ethic and thoughts on dispute resolution. I run my business fully cognizant of the fact that it is a direct reflection on myself. Thank you for your support.
Savewave - Understood. Thank you for your effort in assisting with the resolution of this issue. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me at your convenience.
Georgec114 - Thank you once again. I believe this thread is unfolding in a manner consistent with established corvetteforum rules and posts from members, like youself, are keeping it professional.
Inger67 - Thank you.
DMark - For a moment there, I thought it might be Mr. Mark Dawson (aka VNM aka 30yeardream) under a different corvetteforum name. I share your empathy. Thank you for your post.
Grinder11 - My business is also non-automotive but I very much share your work ethic and thoughts on dispute resolution. I run my business fully cognizant of the fact that it is a direct reflection on myself. Thank you for your support.
Savewave - Understood. Thank you for your effort in assisting with the resolution of this issue. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me at your convenience.
Georgec114 - Thank you once again. I believe this thread is unfolding in a manner consistent with established corvetteforum rules and posts from members, like youself, are keeping it professional.
Inger67 - Thank you.
DMark - For a moment there, I thought it might be Mr. Mark Dawson (aka VNM aka 30yeardream) under a different corvetteforum name. I share your empathy. Thank you for your post.
04-20-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lvvette777
Did you call and dispute the charge on your credit card yet?
04-20-2005, 01:52 PM
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Wish you luck with this.... ruins other Vendor's reputations. 
04-20-2005, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy C5 Cowboy
Wish you luck with this.... ruins other Vendor's reputations.
04-20-2005, 02:58 PM
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Ok, i'll admit that i was wrong. It seems there have been a lot of issues with him that i haven't read about. It seemed logical to me that he would take care of all of you guys the way he took care of me. I hope everything works out in the end 
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Originally Posted by Crazy C5 Cowboy
Wish you luck with this.... ruins other Vendor's reputations.
Most intelligent people will look at this and realize it is isolated to a specific vendor. I don't believe it will have a drastic efffect on other vendors. This wasn't his intent. I am glad he shared this experience with us. He is obviously not the only one having issues - there are a dozen others in the same boat he is in. It helps users like myself who are considering these parts so we don't end up in the same boat as him. For that, I thank him! That is what this forum is all about!
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04-20-2005, 04:01 PM
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Add me to the list
I have posted on another thread about this. I too ordered rotors on the Jan GP. MY card was charged Jan 24th, the day I ordered the rotors. I went with powdercoating as Mark said I would love them. I told him no hurry I had all Winter. Well I got a set of rotors- but they were not powdercoated. I had been told they had been sent to powdercoat and then told they had not. So I helped Mark out and sent them on to a guy in ILL who had ordered. So someone in Darien Ill can thank me for him getting his rotors. So I wait some more. Call Mark or whoever answers. I get his daughter. Parts are at powdercoates. Get another set at house in March. Guess what- No powdercoating!!!! Call, daughter says really sorry, send them back and she will email or talk to me daily. Guess what- nothing. I have emailed and left voice mails- nothing. I even put a post here- Longing for rotors.
So it have been all most 3 months and two wrong shipments and many lies. I can understand personal problems, but it is the lies that gets me.
So it have been all most 3 months and two wrong shipments and many lies. I can understand personal problems, but it is the lies that gets me.
04-20-2005, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by samhane
He only purchased the product. The vendor is the one that hurts other's vendors reputations.
Most intelligent people will look at this and realize it is isolated to a specific vendor. I don't believe it will have a drastic efffect on other vendors. This wasn't his intent. I am glad he shared this experience with us. He is obviously not the only one having issues - there are a dozen others in the same boat he is in. It helps users like myself who are considering these parts so we don't end up in the same boat as him. For that, I thank him! That is what this forum is all about!
Most intelligent people will look at this and realize it is isolated to a specific vendor. I don't believe it will have a drastic efffect on other vendors. This wasn't his intent. I am glad he shared this experience with us. He is obviously not the only one having issues - there are a dozen others in the same boat he is in. It helps users like myself who are considering these parts so we don't end up in the same boat as him. For that, I thank him! That is what this forum is all about!
I think Dan realizes this and I think it was probably misinterpreted by you. But I understand how you might have come to that conclusion.
04-20-2005, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k1 Vette
I dont think Dan (Crazy C5 Cowboy) was saying that making a post like this hurts other vendors reputations. He was saying that a vendor treating a customer like this hurts other vendors because it makes forum members hesitant to deal with other supporting vendors.
I think Dan realizes this and I think it was probably misinterpreted by you. But I understand how you might have come to that conclusion.
I think Dan realizes this and I think it was probably misinterpreted by you. But I understand how you might have come to that conclusion.
AMEN! Definately talking about poor vendors there.... I'm behind the poster all the way. If I can help at all let me know!
04-20-2005, 06:36 PM
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Jrc27 - Thank you for changing your position from skeptical to that of neutral. I hope you will continue to watch this thread regardless of your position.
Samhane - Agreed. You are welcome for the original post and thank you for your continued support.
Big Al - I understand exactly what you are going through. I wish you the best also. Thank you for your post.
1320in11 - Thank you.
2K1 Vette - Again, thank you for your clarification. You are helping to keep this thread as clear as possible for those tracking how this issue unfolds. I appreciate your assistance.
CarsRFun - Thank you. I share your hope.
Crazy C5 Cowboy - Thank you again for your support. Savewave and I have both forwarded this thread to Mr. Dawson, left messages, and are awaiting a response. Your offer to help is greatly appreciated, I only ask that you assist me and others (like 2K1 Vette) in keeping this thread clear and professional.
Wildcat 99 - Thank you for your support. I will continue to monitor this thread and post responses until we hear from Mr. Dawson and resolve this issue to my satisfaction.
Samhane - Agreed. You are welcome for the original post and thank you for your continued support.
Big Al - I understand exactly what you are going through. I wish you the best also. Thank you for your post.
1320in11 - Thank you.
2K1 Vette - Again, thank you for your clarification. You are helping to keep this thread as clear as possible for those tracking how this issue unfolds. I appreciate your assistance.
CarsRFun - Thank you. I share your hope.
Crazy C5 Cowboy - Thank you again for your support. Savewave and I have both forwarded this thread to Mr. Dawson, left messages, and are awaiting a response. Your offer to help is greatly appreciated, I only ask that you assist me and others (like 2K1 Vette) in keeping this thread clear and professional.
Wildcat 99 - Thank you for your support. I will continue to monitor this thread and post responses until we hear from Mr. Dawson and resolve this issue to my satisfaction.