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Old 02-23-2016, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 59BlueSilver

What car comes stock with this?
Millions and millions and millions of old Chevys.

An (real) oilite pilot bushing doesn't require any lube nor is it a good idea to lube it.
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Just picked up my clutch plate after waiting 4 days, and it's much different than my old one. While it is a 10' clutch, it's thicker at the hub by about 3/16" and the disc material is narrower by about 1/4". Also it has 5 springs instead of 6. it says "Valeo", made in Korea.

Does anybody think this is going to matter?







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For street use, no.

I'm referring to the sq. in. of facing material, not the Korea part.

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Originally Posted by MikeM
For street use, no.

I'm referring to the sq. in. of facing material, not the Korea part.
If I can't use this clutch plate, then I'll have to discard my good pressure plate & flywheel and buy a compete 11" set, or if someone can tell me what part # I order for a 10" because this is all Napa could find.
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Originally Posted by 59BlueSilver
If I can't use this clutch plate, then I'll have to discard my good pressure plate & flywheel and buy a compete 11" set, or if someone can tell me what part # I order for a 10" because this is all Napa could find.
If that clutch plate is the same outside diameter diameter as your pressure plate, put it in the car and quit worrying about it!

If it's not, find another parts store. Those clutch plates are common as dirt.

PS. You NAPA store may be using a computer instead of a parts book or just plain old fashioned product knowledge. If they are, go somewhere else.

PSS. I don't recommend this to you but I've had oil on a clutch disc before to the point where it slipped. I fixed the leak and then smoked the clutch real good, one time and it ran forever without slipping. Don't try this at home.

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Originally Posted by 59BlueSilver
If I can't use this clutch plate, then I'll have to discard my good pressure plate & flywheel and buy a compete 11" set, or if someone can tell me what part # I order for a 10" because this is all Napa could find.
Have your original rebuilt by Fort Wayne Clutch. They have been doing this work for YEARS (and years).

LUK, Hayes, and McLeod should have a clutch disc to fit your setup. Get one designed for "street" use.

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Originally Posted by MikeM
If that clutch plate is the same outside diameter diameter as your pressure plate, put it in the car and quit worrying about it!

If it's not, find another parts store. Those clutch plates are common as dirt.

PS. You NAPA store may be using a computer instead of a parts book or just plain old fashioned product knowledge. If they are, go somewhere else.

PSS. I don't recommend this to you but I've had oil on a clutch disc before to the point where it slipped. I fixed the leak and then smoked the clutch real good, one time and it ran forever without slipping. Don't try this at home.
Since I have it out, I wonder if I can solvent clean to remove some of that oil and then burn it. What do you think? It has very little wear.
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Originally Posted by MikeM

PSS. I don't recommend this to you but I've had oil on a clutch disc before to the point where it slipped. I fixed the leak and then smoked the clutch real good, one time and it ran forever without slipping. Don't try this at home.
Originally Posted by 59BlueSilver
Since I have it out, I wonder if I can solvent clean to remove some of that oil and then burn it. What do you think? It has very little wear.
Maybe you missed my last paragraph?
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Originally Posted by 59BlueSilver
Since I have it out, I wonder if I can solvent clean to remove some of that oil and then burn it. What do you think? It has very little wear.
Unless you enjoy yanking transmissions out of these cars I would not try this. My guess is you would have about a 50/50 chance at best of satisfactory results and most likely at least end up with a clutch chatter/shuddering.
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66
Unless you enjoy yanking transmissions out of these cars I would not try this. My guess is you would have about a 50/50 chance at best of satisfactory results and most likely at least end up with a clutch chatter/shuddering.
I would say about 90/10 chance of failure. REPLACE THE DISC.

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Originally Posted by Powershift
I would say about 90/10 chance of failure. REPLACE THE DISC.

Larry
I was being optimistic - didn't want to raise MikeM's ire.
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Originally Posted by DansYellow66

My guess is you would have about a 50/50 chance at best of satisfactory results and most likely at least end up with a clutch chatter/shuddering.
Originally Posted by Powershift
I would say about 90/10 chance of failure. REPLACE THE DISC.

Larry
[QUOTE=MikeM;1591647053

PSS. I don't recommend this to you but I've had oil on a clutch disc before to the point where it slipped. I fixed the leak and then smoked the clutch real good, one time and it ran forever without slipping. Don't try this at home.[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by 59BlueSilver
Since I have it out, I wonder if I can solvent clean to remove some of that oil and then burn it. What do you think? It has very little wear.
Originally Posted by MikeM
Maybe you missed my last paragraph?
Originally Posted by DansYellow66
I was being optimistic - didn't want to raise MikeM's ire.

Maybe you missed the same paragraph?

He never once said his clutch was slipping/chattering, just that it had oil on it.

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Valeo is a very well-known worldwide supplier of OEM clutches, #2 in the industry (to LuK); their plant in Korea has made clutches for decades.
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Originally Posted by JohnZ
Valeo is a very well-known worldwide supplier of OEM clutches, #2 in the industry (to LuK); their plant in Korea has made clutches for decades.
That's good to know. I installed it & the tranny today. Looks good. Tomorrow I hook up the rest. Hope this puts an end to the tranny leak. Thanks to all for your assistance!
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Originally Posted by MikeM
For street use, no.

I'm referring to the sq. in. of facing material, not the Korea part.
Sorry Mike, when I read this, I thought you were saying no to using this clutch disc, and i was running out of options. My mistake...
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I've put Centerforce II in my small-block 327 '67 and other midyears for many years without disengagement problems, so I'm somewhat mystified about all the problems others have encountered.
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Big difference! The old clutch was slipping so badly that operating the clutch was smooth. This new clutch not so, really grabs. I have it adjusted to provide .040 clearance b/t the disc & flywheel/pressure plate. Guess it will have to break in to get smoother.



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