Well, I got the rod knock blues...
#61
And when I say rag tag of parts disassembling the motor..I mean bolts looked newer, cam/lifters/pushrods, timing chain. The crank appeared to have recently been turned and most bearing except for the 1st main all looked newer as well.
I went ahead and went with a new crank, due to worry that the vibration had caused fatigue on the original crank. Better safe than sorry. I also went with a different cam profile, am adding a pertronix igntion, and debating a PVC system instead of road draft tube
I went ahead and went with a new crank, due to worry that the vibration had caused fatigue on the original crank. Better safe than sorry. I also went with a different cam profile, am adding a pertronix igntion, and debating a PVC system instead of road draft tube
#62
Race Director
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Inverness FL
Posts: 17,891
Received 727 Likes
on
621 Posts
St. Jude Donor '07
And when I say rag tag of parts disassembling the motor..I mean bolts looked newer, cam/lifters/pushrods, timing chain. The crank appeared to have recently been turned and most bearing except for the 1st main all looked newer as well.
I went ahead and went with a new crank, due to worry that the vibration had caused fatigue on the original crank. Better safe than sorry. I also went with a different cam profile, am adding a pertronix igntion, and debating a PVC system instead of road draft tube
I went ahead and went with a new crank, due to worry that the vibration had caused fatigue on the original crank. Better safe than sorry. I also went with a different cam profile, am adding a pertronix igntion, and debating a PVC system instead of road draft tube
Bill
#63
Team Owner
Member Since: Mar 2003
Location: Greenville, Indiana
Posts: 26,118
Received 1,843 Likes
on
1,398 Posts
If you're curious about how old the bearings are, there is a date on the back side of the shell.
#64
Drifting
Main bearings generally don't fail. There was a contaminate floating around in that engine, dollars to donuts last owner wiped a cam and didn't clean the block properly. Certainly there was no need for a new crank, could have just reground the original.
It would be a good idea to have it professionally assembled and the cam broke in on an engine stand so you don't have this issue again.
It would be a good idea to have it professionally assembled and the cam broke in on an engine stand so you don't have this issue again.
#65
Race Director
Member Since: Apr 2015
Location: Fresno California
Posts: 17,505
Received 3,443 Likes
on
2,113 Posts
Main bearings generally don't fail. There was a contaminate floating around in that engine, dollars to donuts last owner wiped a cam and didn't clean the block properly. Certainly there was no need for a new crank, could have just reground the original.
It would be a good idea to have it professionally assembled and the cam broke in on an engine stand so you don't have this issue again.
It would be a good idea to have it professionally assembled and the cam broke in on an engine stand so you don't have this issue again.
#66
Le Mans Master
Member Since: Sep 2009
Location: "You may all go to Hell- and I will go to Texas- Davy Crockett
Posts: 9,151
Received 474 Likes
on
337 Posts
St. Jude Donor '12
This.... I hope you threw those 50 year plus year old rods as far as you could throw them. I have zero faith in the early 327 rods and bolts that have seen a billion stress and heat cycles. 1020 steel aint much. Scat or somebody else's 4340 rods are cheap insurance
#67
The entire bottom end is new. Crank/pistons/rods/rings/freeze plugs/cam/lifters/timing lchain/bearings/bolts/oil pump/pick up.
I had the block hot tanked/bored/cleaned and checked. About the only thing original is the block. While I was at it I had the engine balanced and the short block assembled.
I figured replacing the crank was cheap insurance. I plan on driving the car quite a bit and want to rule out any weak links. Unfortunately I have decided to go all out and replace the balancer/water pump as well. My rebulder also went thru the heads and at least found zero issues there.
Also my flywheel had a few spots on it so I went ahead and had that machined as well.
I had the block hot tanked/bored/cleaned and checked. About the only thing original is the block. While I was at it I had the engine balanced and the short block assembled.
I figured replacing the crank was cheap insurance. I plan on driving the car quite a bit and want to rule out any weak links. Unfortunately I have decided to go all out and replace the balancer/water pump as well. My rebulder also went thru the heads and at least found zero issues there.
Also my flywheel had a few spots on it so I went ahead and had that machined as well.
#70
Safety Car
#71
Drifting
Read my post again, I said 'CERTAINLY It's not spun' and it wasn't.
I never advocated using a 'spun' rod again. Let me say this, 99% of the time when you 'spin' a bearing, the car is not usable..at least not for long. Without reading the whole post again, OP was still driving this car with a knock. No bearings were 'spun'.
#72
Le Mans Master
Read my post again, I said 'CERTAINLY It's not spun' and it wasn't.
I never advocated using a 'spun' rod again. Let me say this, 99% of the time when you 'spin' a bearing, the car is not usable..at least not for long. Without reading the whole post again, OP was still driving this car with a knock. No bearings were 'spun'.
I never advocated using a 'spun' rod again. Let me say this, 99% of the time when you 'spin' a bearing, the car is not usable..at least not for long. Without reading the whole post again, OP was still driving this car with a knock. No bearings were 'spun'.
I am guessing bad mechanic skill involved.
#73
Safety Car
Member Since: Jan 2000
Location: Poway CA
Posts: 4,845
Received 1,295 Likes
on
560 Posts
2023 C1 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2022 C1 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2021 C1 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C1 of Year Finalist (stock)
2016 C1 of Year Finalist
Another vote for keeping it original.
#74
Race Director
Member Since: Jan 2000
Location: Corsicana, Tx
Posts: 12,617
Received 1,878 Likes
on
916 Posts
2020 C2 of the Year - Modified Winner
2020 Corvette of the Year (performance mods)
C2 of Year Winner (performance mods) 2019
2017 C2 of Year Finalist
Glad we kept it all "original".....
Seriously...glad you got it fixed.
JIM
Seriously...glad you got it fixed.
JIM
#75
Race Director
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: Canada's capital
Posts: 19,777
Received 4,583 Likes
on
2,157 Posts
2020 Corvette of the Year Finalist (appearance mods)
C1 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
You guys like to dig up old threads don't you?......I'd like to hear what it has run like all season, and if the OP is happy with the work done......it was last January after all!
#76
Drifting
Member Since: Apr 2014
Location: montague michigan
Posts: 1,744
Received 77 Likes
on
61 Posts
C2 of Year Finalist (stock) 2019
my grandpa showed me a trick when I was a youngster, buying my first car! carb was out of wack and engine needed a tune up bad! we did all that then he got the car warmed up. he then grabbed a Dixie cup of cold water pinching the sides together so that it just dripped out when pouring. he revved the motor to about 2000 rpm and dripped the cold water in the carb, lugging it a little bit. the crap that blew out of the tail pipes was amazing! he did that with about 2 cups full of water. in between letting it good and warm.it ran awesome after that. he exsplained that the cold water hits the hot carbon deposits on the pistons and knock them loose. now, yes you have to be carful not pour it all in and hydro lock the motor! I have done this a ton of times in the last 40yrs with great results IMO.. troy
Last edited by 20round; 12-10-2017 at 06:48 AM.