Remote start on a 79 c3 vette?
08-17-2016, 02:39 PM
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Remote start on a 79 c3 vette?
Hi all, I have a 79 c3 vette and I was wondering if anyone knows installing a remote start system (like viper) is possible?
I took the C3 to a car mechanic and he told me that NO WAY the highway a remote start can be installed on a carburetor-based engine. He told me only on fuel-injection cars... is this accurate?
Thank you
s.
I took the C3 to a car mechanic and he told me that NO WAY the highway a remote start can be installed on a carburetor-based engine. He told me only on fuel-injection cars... is this accurate?
Thank you
s.
08-17-2016, 03:53 PM
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What does Viper (or any other remote start outfit) have to say?
08-17-2016, 04:07 PM
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It can be installed.
The issue is that a carbureted car typically requires a bit of mechanical intervention to start - IE set the choke and give the accelerator pump a shot. An EFI car does all of the cold start fueling and fast idle control via the ECM.
It would work fine in situations where your car would start on its own. When my car was still carbureted that was typically every start other than the first start of the day.
The issue is that a carbureted car typically requires a bit of mechanical intervention to start - IE set the choke and give the accelerator pump a shot. An EFI car does all of the cold start fueling and fast idle control via the ECM.
It would work fine in situations where your car would start on its own. When my car was still carbureted that was typically every start other than the first start of the day.
08-17-2016, 04:35 PM
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it will work , as long as you can start your car without, touching the gas pedal.
If your car has mech. choke, and requires you to depress the gas pedal to set the choke,
and start your car it will not without some modifications like : electric choke, or
you could also wire a A/C fast idle solenoid, to momentarily trip a mechanical choke.
now if you have a manual transmission it is highly recommended Not to install,
because if you forget and leave it in gear, very bad things can happen !
"I guess I better take my remote start off my carbureted Holley 350 if the mechanic says so." .... Ha Ha Ha Ha
If your car has mech. choke, and requires you to depress the gas pedal to set the choke,
and start your car it will not without some modifications like : electric choke, or
you could also wire a A/C fast idle solenoid, to momentarily trip a mechanical choke.
now if you have a manual transmission it is highly recommended Not to install,
because if you forget and leave it in gear, very bad things can happen !
"I guess I better take my remote start off my carbureted Holley 350 if the mechanic says so." .... Ha Ha Ha Ha
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08-17-2016, 06:29 PM
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Get a new mechanic. Remote starters were around before EFI. By the way, I had an old 70s Nova with a QJet, it would ALWAYS start, always, with only a touch of the key, never had to touch the gas pedal. It was not tuned by me...
08-18-2016, 04:03 AM
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yep, when you get a, **** hard to work with know it all mech who doesn't do not try to talk horse sense to a jackass just get a new tech....
My 66 had a holley at one point and then a edelbrock carb electric choke and it was a 4 speed I just always had the brake on and was careful about being out of gear...
My 66 had a holley at one point and then a edelbrock carb electric choke and it was a 4 speed I just always had the brake on and was careful about being out of gear...
08-18-2016, 02:06 PM
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I would recommend against it. those things are the biggest parasites for cars. (biggest problem is they tend to fry out ignition switches) I take so many of them out at the dealer I work at. unless it's a factory option, stay away from them.
08-18-2016, 09:30 PM
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I believe you, I wasn't gonna run one on my 69 but on my 66 it didnt go through the ignition it went right to the starter and was a timed relay, on my 66 is was akin to having a remote starter button under the hood, just the remote button wasn't under the hood it was on a wireless remote that also popped open my electric doors as my 66 had no handles.
I believe you, I wasn't gonna run one on my 69 but on my 66 it didnt go through the ignition it went right to the starter and was a timed relay, on my 66 is was akin to having a remote starter button under the hood, just the remote button wasn't under the hood it was on a wireless remote that also popped open my electric doors as my 66 had no handles.
08-18-2016, 10:51 PM
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Back in 1974 I had a 1970 Deville convertible with a remote start. There was a solenoid mounted near the carburetor with a chain (like the ones on a lamp) connected to the throttle linkage. When the remote button was depressed the solenoid would snap the throttle back once, setting the choke and a shot of gas.
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08-19-2016, 08:05 AM
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Other than impressing your friends when you start and already warm engine, why would you need it?
As mentioned, getting it to work reliably with a carbureted engine is possible...but not likely. Much easier with computer controlled engine management system.
As mentioned, getting it to work reliably with a carbureted engine is possible...but not likely. Much easier with computer controlled engine management system.
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08-19-2016, 05:53 PM
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Yeah, why? Starting my car is one of the many things I enjoy. Why do I need to hit a button from somewhere else.
08-20-2016, 06:32 PM
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I would suggest if you want remote start, "you" install it.
#1. an install shop will hack your wiring. and may make poor connections.
#2 you should install it and become intimate with it, they usually include alarm to,
when it fails you need to know where the connections are, and how to fix it.
I wanted remote lock capability, for a few more dollars, you can add remote start to.
#1. an install shop will hack your wiring. and may make poor connections.
#2 you should install it and become intimate with it, they usually include alarm to,
when it fails you need to know where the connections are, and how to fix it.
I wanted remote lock capability, for a few more dollars, you can add remote start to.
08-20-2016, 11:05 PM
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I would suggest if you want remote start, "you" install it.
#1. an install shop will hack your wiring. and may make poor connections.
#2 you should install it and become intimate with it, they usually include alarm to,
when it fails you need to know where the connections are, and how to fix it.
I wanted remote lock capability, for a few more dollars, you can add remote start to.
#1. an install shop will hack your wiring. and may make poor connections.
#2 you should install it and become intimate with it, they usually include alarm to,
when it fails you need to know where the connections are, and how to fix it.
I wanted remote lock capability, for a few more dollars, you can add remote start to.
That said I love doing my own wiring....
08-21-2016, 01:55 AM
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A well-reputed shop installed my alarm system on my 78 back in the late 90's. When I removed it during my manual transmission swap, I couldn't believe what a rat's nest it was.
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08-21-2016, 01:46 PM
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Having a good reputation does not necessarily mean you're good at what you do.
Most of these car stereo shops, at least around here, last for a couple years and then disappear and show up under a new name. You only have to be good enough to get customers out the door and have customer's checks clear. I didn't dive under the dash to explore their wiring job until I had to - over a decade later.
Most of these car stereo shops, at least around here, last for a couple years and then disappear and show up under a new name. You only have to be good enough to get customers out the door and have customer's checks clear. I didn't dive under the dash to explore their wiring job until I had to - over a decade later.
08-22-2016, 02:14 AM
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Having a good reputation does not necessarily mean you're good at what you do.
Most of these car stereo shops, at least around here, last for a couple years and then disappear and show up under a new name. You only have to be good enough to get customers out the door and have customer's checks clear. I didn't dive under the dash to explore their wiring job until I had to - over a decade later.
Most of these car stereo shops, at least around here, last for a couple years and then disappear and show up under a new name. You only have to be good enough to get customers out the door and have customer's checks clear. I didn't dive under the dash to explore their wiring job until I had to - over a decade later.
I am super jaded over shops and techs who hose jobbed me, and reputation is great until they drop the ball with my car,
Of course we are not going to run into some corvette shop owner who admits he is full of it,
so I have no idea what one does when they are at a point they must hire a job done.
08-22-2016, 11:45 AM
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I wasn't poking at you but trying to be obscurely ironic,
I am super jaded over shops and techs who hose jobbed me, and reputation is great until they drop the ball with my car,
Of course we are not going to run into some corvette shop owner who admits he is full of it,
so I have no idea what one does when they are at a point they must hire a job done.
I am super jaded over shops and techs who hose jobbed me, and reputation is great until they drop the ball with my car,
Of course we are not going to run into some corvette shop owner who admits he is full of it,
so I have no idea what one does when they are at a point they must hire a job done.
My biggest issue with the place was craftsmanship - they delivered functional work but left every wire (and there were at least 10) a few feet too long.
Then there's the well-reputed shop that installed an exhaust system in my C6 and cracked the floorboard. Or the well-reputed shop that "fixed" my hard-starting carburetor but left it without a functioning accelerator pump. Or the well-reputed shop that replaced my leaky brake calipers but didn't bother changing the pads (nearly at the backing plate, seriously) so they could charge me again later for that.
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08-22-2016, 05:43 PM
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Hi all, I have a 79 c3 vette and I was wondering if anyone knows installing a remote start system (like viper) is possible?
I took the C3 to a car mechanic and he told me that NO WAY the highway a remote start can be installed on a carburetor-based engine. He told me only on fuel-injection cars... is this accurate?
Thank you
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I took the C3 to a car mechanic and he told me that NO WAY the highway a remote start can be installed on a carburetor-based engine. He told me only on fuel-injection cars... is this accurate?
Thank you
s.