Updating an 1988 from OBDI to OBDII ???
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Drifting
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Updating an 1988 from OBDI to OBDII ???
I have an 1988 auto with the stock MAF 165 running 32b code thats OBDI.
Wondering if anyone ever heard of transplanting any later OBDII systems into earlier cars like mine?
Computer, wiring, sensors, etc. as a unit?
The motivation is OBDII cars are exempt from dyno roller emission testing, in my state. They just do an error scan and pass the car if no trouble codes are posted, and a very loose visual if you know who to go to
The OBDI cars still have to go on the dyno, which is always a nightmare for my lowered Vette
they crushed my oil pan once
and skidded off one side another time
Welding in left/right and after cat oxy sensors would be no problem.
Putting in wiring harness should be easy enough.
Don't know about the computer controlled trans?
Don't know how the dash boards would work together?
Vats systems?
I have a supercharged ZZ4 crate engine with my own 32b tuning right now.
Any idea's?
Thanks
Wondering if anyone ever heard of transplanting any later OBDII systems into earlier cars like mine?
Computer, wiring, sensors, etc. as a unit?
The motivation is OBDII cars are exempt from dyno roller emission testing, in my state. They just do an error scan and pass the car if no trouble codes are posted, and a very loose visual if you know who to go to
The OBDI cars still have to go on the dyno, which is always a nightmare for my lowered Vette
they crushed my oil pan once
and skidded off one side another time
Welding in left/right and after cat oxy sensors would be no problem.
Putting in wiring harness should be easy enough.
Don't know about the computer controlled trans?
Don't know how the dash boards would work together?
Vats systems?
I have a supercharged ZZ4 crate engine with my own 32b tuning right now.
Any idea's?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by SuperL98
I have an 1988 auto with the stock MAF 165 running 32b code thats OBDI.
Wondering if anyone ever heard of transplanting any later OBDII systems into earlier cars like mine?
Computer, wiring, sensors, etc. as a unit?
The motivation is OBDII cars are exempt from dyno roller emission testing, in my state. They just do an error scan and pass the car if no trouble codes are posted, and a very loose visual if you know who to go to
The OBDI cars still have to go on the dyno, which is always a nightmare for my lowered Vette
they crushed my oil pan once
and skidded off one side another time
Welding in left/right and after cat oxy sensors would be no problem.
Putting in wiring harness should be easy enough.
Don't know about the computer controlled trans?
Don't know how the dash boards would work together?
Vats systems?
I have a supercharged ZZ4 crate engine with my own 32b tuning right now.
Any idea's?
Thanks
Wondering if anyone ever heard of transplanting any later OBDII systems into earlier cars like mine?
Computer, wiring, sensors, etc. as a unit?
The motivation is OBDII cars are exempt from dyno roller emission testing, in my state. They just do an error scan and pass the car if no trouble codes are posted, and a very loose visual if you know who to go to
The OBDI cars still have to go on the dyno, which is always a nightmare for my lowered Vette
they crushed my oil pan once
and skidded off one side another time
Welding in left/right and after cat oxy sensors would be no problem.
Putting in wiring harness should be easy enough.
Don't know about the computer controlled trans?
Don't know how the dash boards would work together?
Vats systems?
I have a supercharged ZZ4 crate engine with my own 32b tuning right now.
Any idea's?
Thanks
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that's true- at least here in illinois- they do whatever test is required for the vehicles VIN. doesn't matter what engine or computer i am using.
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Well here in Mass ... it's alittle more sketchy.
The local garages still do the testing, and seam to have some leeway.
For instance my supercharged engine (see sig) has passed the visual for the last 10 years, even though the supercharger replaces the smog pump.
I just show them an old generic CARB document from Paxton and they let it go, as long as it passes the tailpipe test.
The last few times the tester asked me if it had traction control (it doesn't being an 1988) and if it could be turned off. Told him it had posi-traction and he looked at me puzzled and wound up doing a two speed idle test instead of the dyno roller.
What got me thinking about this is that I just had the family mini-van tested, and asked the guy about it. He said he just looks for the generic OBDII connector, and if it has it he plugs his tester in. Maybe the software does some screening for year, but he didn't.
Anyway, going to look at it some more, for other reasons also, like bigger MAF, and better code (I hit the max 254 grams/sec at about 3500 rpm with the 32b code).
The local garages still do the testing, and seam to have some leeway.
For instance my supercharged engine (see sig) has passed the visual for the last 10 years, even though the supercharger replaces the smog pump.
I just show them an old generic CARB document from Paxton and they let it go, as long as it passes the tailpipe test.
The last few times the tester asked me if it had traction control (it doesn't being an 1988) and if it could be turned off. Told him it had posi-traction and he looked at me puzzled and wound up doing a two speed idle test instead of the dyno roller.
What got me thinking about this is that I just had the family mini-van tested, and asked the guy about it. He said he just looks for the generic OBDII connector, and if it has it he plugs his tester in. Maybe the software does some screening for year, but he didn't.
Anyway, going to look at it some more, for other reasons also, like bigger MAF, and better code (I hit the max 254 grams/sec at about 3500 rpm with the 32b code).
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Have you checked out the Turbo Regal Forums? I know there is a popular LT1 MAF and extender chip for the Turbo 6's. I think it gets you over the 255 g/sec barrier. Maybe the same vendor can work something up for V8's, or maybe it's even possible with the tools we have now. I have never looked into it since my GN is still doing fine with the stock MAF and my mods are mild.