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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 10:16 PM
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I recently purchased a 2006, Z51, 6 sp, GY F1 tires. Rear tires are wearing more on the outside. Is this an alignment issue, or typical of Z51 set up?
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The Z51 suspension is nothing more than sway bars and should have nothing to do with it. Sounds like a 4 wheel alignment is necessary.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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I recently purchased a 2006, Z51, 6 sp, GY F1 tires. Rear tires are wearing more on the outside. Is this an alignment issue, or typical of Z51 set up?
Thanks. JB.
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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My rears are wearing evenly, but my fronts are wearing more on the inside tread. ~15k Miles.
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Originally Posted by saplumr
The Z51 suspension is nothing more than sway bars and should have nothing to do with it. Sounds like a 4 wheel alignment is necessary.
Actually, the Z51 suspension gets different sway bars, springs, shocks, and factory tires; on all for wheels.

Plus a power steering cooler and on manual tranny cars, an oil cooler.

Rear tires usually wear more in the centers if you are running the stock 30 psi cold, perhaps the previous owner was running low pressures in the rears. Alignment might cause simultaneous inside and outside edge wear on the rears, but that's not common.

EDIT: he said wear on the outside and I was thinking "outside" meant both edges of his tires. But it looks like he means just the exterior edge, which would indeed be an alignment issue most of the time.

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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
Actually, the Z51 suspension gets different sway bars, springs, shocks, and factory tires; on all for wheels.

Plus a power steering cooler and on manual tranny cars, an oil cooler.
I know but my point is it has no bearing on tire wear.
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same thing happened to my Z51, it was just an alignment issue, got it fixed and hardly any wear
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Just what tire pressures is everyone running?
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The Z51 car has different alighnment specs.
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Originally Posted by GotVett?
Just what tire pressures is everyone running?
I just bought my Crystal Red 08 Z51 6Auto 3LT NPP NAV 17000mi used from a guy last Sept and the tires were all wearing abnormally and fast. Fronts were both wearing on the right and I forget but the backs were funny too. So, I put new non RF tires on at a pro shop and had a four wheel alignment and it was confirmed not to spec. After new rubber, road force balance and 4 wheel alignment, it's friggin' perfect. Got a readout to prove it. The car is awesome.

I make sure cold pressure never dips below 30psi and so I usually set it to 30.5. The TPMS readouts are rock solid and all match my gauge. I can watch the pressure climb evenly while I drive. The tires were originally serviced with nitrogen but the benefit to cost ratio for that I believe is not worth the trouble so I use my garage compressor with regular air and they seem fine like all my other cars.

Can't wait for driving season.
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The Z51 has more aggressive settings on the suspension which is also why the fronts are basically gone in 10K to 15K on factory Z51 specs. The rears will last a little longer.

The street setting is what I have cause I do not track the car and want it to have a good tire life. Tires are not cheap.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/docs/camb...t-settings.pdf
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I have only 15k on my '07 Z51 and I've been needing new tires for a bit. I contributed mine to running about 32 - 34 mostly. 30 just seemed too sluggish for me and I figured I paid the price with the higher pressure. Seems that there's other factors in play now as well. Always heard about the poor alignment right from the factory too. Gonna be getting new rubber and wheels very shortly (have to) and I'm going to be sure to get it aligned properly.
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Originally Posted by GotVett?
I have only 15k on my '07 Z51 and I've been needing new tires for a bit. I contributed mine to running about 32 - 34 mostly. 30 just seemed too sluggish for me and I figured I paid the price with the higher pressure. Seems that there's other factors in play now as well. Always heard about the poor alignment right from the factory too. Gonna be getting new rubber and wheels very shortly (have to) and I'm going to be sure to get it aligned properly.
If you look at the factory specs you're going to be shocked at what the "in spec range" is. It's almost like it's a little close, just about right and kind of close, roundabout give or take a little.
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Originally Posted by saplumr
If you look at the factory specs you're going to be shocked at what the "in spec range" is. It's almost like it's a little close, just about right and kind of close, roundabout give or take a little.


And even with those "mile wide" specs, all three of our new Corvettes (2001, 2006, 2009) have had at least one setting that was outside the limits.
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Originally Posted by GotVett?
Just what tire pressures is everyone running?
I run 32# cold. Don't go by the tire pressure monitors when cold, they're not accurate till you've driven a couple miles, and by then the tires are heated-up enough to throw-off the "cold" temp reading.

The factory setting on the wheel alignment is indeed a WIDE window. I've seen some factory alignments that were spot-on and some that were waaay off the mark. This is generally true of most cars since the manufacturer relegates the tire warranty to the tire manufacturer and any necessary warranty replacements are pro-rated anyway.
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Originally Posted by hebdog7
The Z51 has more aggressive settings on the suspension which is also why the fronts are basically gone in 10K to 15K on factory Z51 specs. The rears will last a little longer.

The street setting is what I have cause I do not track the car and want it to have a good tire life. Tires are not cheap.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/docs/camb...t-settings.pdf
Agreed... I brought my car in after 2k miles and said it was pulling to the right.. they re-did the alignment for me.. I did put all new tires on with Mich's PS ultra high perf all year tires.. they're great..

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The Z51 came with a softer, stickier compound that is well known to wear quicker than the base tires. If there was any kind of a misalignment, it might wear them in this way fairly quickly.
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Originally Posted by vettedoogie
The Z51 came with a softer, stickier compound that is well known to wear quicker than the base tires. If there was any kind of a misalignment, it might wear them in this way fairly quickly.
Bingo! Give this man a cigar. This is one reason I suggest that people NOT get the Z51 option if they are not going to autocross.

Quick wear on the right front inside edge is common. It's an alignment set up that gives the best track handing according to GM.

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Please show me just where the Z51 is so aggressive in the settings! ALL the C6 settings, EXCEPT for the Z06, look to be the same to me!


If you want tire wear for just highway and street driving, get the camber and Toe down to 0. That will give you the most cruising tire mileage. You want to crush pylons or road race, crank up the camber to -1.00 or MORE for cornering ability. Serious racers are -2.00 in camber or more.

There is nothing in the alignment specs that indicate the Z51 is different that ANY C6 except the Z06.


When you get the alignment, there is NO SUCH THING as +/- on the settings. It should be exactly what you request, not just close.


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Old Jan 10, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hebdog7
The Z51 has more aggressive settings on the suspension which is also why the fronts are basically gone in 10K to 15K on factory Z51 specs. The rears will last a little longer.

The street setting is what I have cause I do not track the car and want it to have a good tire life. Tires are not cheap.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/docs/camb...t-settings.pdf

This is also the settings I have my Z51 set to. I believe your link is broken.

http://www.pfadtracing.com/docs/camb...t-settings.pdf
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