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Old 04-20-2010, 08:14 PM
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So, as you know, my "9.8:1" engine compression tests out as 145PSI... Theoretically the number should be 172PSI. I am wondering if the pistons that are in there are not really -11CC chambers... Does anyone know?

The number on the piston reads "6444X05"









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According to their parts catalog its a -11cc dish. The only way to know for sure was to CC them. But from what your pictures show I would say its close comparing to a Arias piston with a -12cc dish. It looks very close as both have a very similar design.
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Contact Brian Nutter on ls1tech. He is a piston guru and a weisco rep.
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sam,

u tore down the motor?
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sam,

u tore down the motor?
Sorry Sam,

I have no input with this, I only use Diamond pistons and I've never had a problem.

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Originally Posted by TheGovernorZ06
sam,

u tore down the motor?
No, I did not. I ran the leakdown test and it came out fine, then I ran the compression test again and it came out as 145PSI again, so I am trying to figure out how the engine can have low compression when it is not leaking any pressure...
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Oh ok I thought u did by the pics
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i assume the builder took the pics as it was going together
you got pics of the heads?

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Default Compression PSI

Cam duration, overlap, and phasing strongly affect (reduces) actual cranking compression pressure readings. Have you factored these into your theoretical compression PSI reading?



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Cam duration, overlap, and phasing strongly affect (reduces) actual cranking compression pressure readings. Have you factored these into your theoretical compression PSI reading?



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Yes...
What heads are using and what's the chamber size ?

Also Head gasket used and thickness ?
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Originally Posted by ajg1915
What heads are using and what's the chamber size ?

Also Head gasket used and thickness ?
Stock LS2 heads (64cc chambers), stock GM MLS head gaskets (0.050")
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Stock LS2 heads (64cc chambers), stock GM MLS head gaskets (0.050")
Is the throttle plate open during cranking and how many times do you crank the engine over on each cyclinder ?

145 PSI is pretty low. Something seems amiss to me. Have you thought about pulling one head to confirm that the correct pistons went into your engine.

Not sure if you access to a boroscope and can verify the correct pistons are in there without pulling the head.

Hope you get it figured out soon.
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Is the throttle plate open during cranking and how many times do you crank the engine over on each cyclinder ?

145 PSI is pretty low. Something seems amiss to me. Have you thought about pulling one head to confirm that the correct pistons went into your engine.

Not sure if you access to a boroscope and can verify the correct pistons are in there without pulling the head.

Hope you get it figured out soon.
I crank it until the pressure gauge stops climbing. Probably takes 6 to 10 revolutions?
I had the head boroscoped, the piston I see is the one pictured here.

May pull a head later on, I'm too busy now though.
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Originally Posted by PowerLabs
I crank it until the pressure gauge stops climbing. Probably takes 6 to 10 revolutions?
I had the head boroscoped, the piston I see is the one pictured here.

May pull a head later on, I'm too busy now though.
Have yor verified push rod length to see that they are the correct length ? maybe they are too short and you're not taking in enough air ?
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Pushrod length only affects preload on the lifter, not lift.
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Up to certain point that is true, use to long of a push rod and you could have some nasty problems.

If the pushrods are too short, it could explain the loss of compression.

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If one used a pushrod long enough or short enough to cause a loss in compression, it would be painfully obvious upon installation. Either way, its not the case in this scenario.
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Where does the piston sit-in or out? This is stock stroke correct? LS6 heads can be anywhere from 63-65cc. But based on 64 I get a compression of 9.5 to 1.
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Originally Posted by 1.8t
If one used a pushrod long enough or short enough to cause a loss in compression, it would be painfully obvious upon installation. Either way, its not the case in this scenario.

I don't disagree with you but I've always learned to start with the basics and begin the process of elimination in diagnosing any problem.



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