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Old 10-09-2013, 05:21 PM
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What do you all do with the MAP sensor on a Z06 when you install a blower? Stock MAP sensor won't work and the ZR1 3-bar MAP sensor doesn't fit. Right now, I have mine dialed out, and am waiting for a modified sensor to arrive that will read boost. What have others here done?
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I am also interested in a MAP sensor that would work on a blown C6 in order to read boost using an Aeroforce gauge.
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Buddy....you need a patch harness to make it work. The connector on your car is different.
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Or the DSX sensor plugs right in.
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Buddy....you need a patch harness to make it work. The connector on your car is different.
Yes, but it doesn't fit in the space in any case. Harness would be easy if it actually did fit.
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Originally Posted by FastestBusaAround
What do you all do with the MAP sensor on a Z06 when you install a blower? Stock MAP sensor won't work and the ZR1 3-bar MAP sensor doesn't fit. Right now, I have mine dialed out, and am waiting for a modified sensor to arrive that will read boost. What have others here done?
Plug n play 2 BAR MAP sensor for LS7 intake
GM 2 Bar MAP Sensor #12615136 or Saturn #12580698

Plug n play 3.3 BAR MAP sensor for LS7 intake
GM Duramax 3.3 Bar MAP Sensor #12623671 = AC Delco 213-4658 PnP LS7 intake
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Thanks Josh! I'll cancel the order and get one of these. I'm planning to upgrade to the YSI, so am I better off with the 3.3 BAR MAP sensor? Any of the two above will fit I take it and just bolt right on and plug right in with no mods?
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2 bar will work to 14.7 psi of boost. You plan on going over that, get the 3.3 bar.
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Your ECM is going to cap you at 22psi anyway. The 3.3 is a pretty crappy sensor.
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Originally Posted by DSteck
Your ECM is going to cap you at 22psi anyway. The 3.3 is a pretty crappy sensor.
How do you get past that on the factory ECM or does that mean it's stand alone time?
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Use a maf, or you are just stuck with the 22psi row for timing/fuel and you just dial that in if you are over.
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Originally Posted by jon6.0
How do you get past that on the factory ECM or does that mean it's stand alone time?
Get creative, use the math learned in school, and scale it all.
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Originally Posted by Dragracer_Art
It would sure be nice if someone figured out how to make the factory boost guage in the ZR1 cluster work in a non-ZR1 car.

Mine powers up and does the sweep with the rest of the guages, but stays pegged all the way to the left.

There has to be a way to get a MAP sensor to talk to the computer or guage.
Run a ZR1 BCM.
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Originally Posted by DSteck
Get creative, use the math learned in school, and scale it all.
Apologies in advance for any ignorance, but if I install the GM 2 Bar MAP Sensor #12615136 (thanks Josh!) will an Aeroforce gauge properly read the boost? For the scaling, is that done with a correction factor on the Aeroforce gauge or with the tuning of the ECU? If I install the GM 2 Bar MAP sensor will the ECU get a correct reading from the MAP without any tuning?
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If you install a 2+ bar sensor and configure the offset and linear to make the ECU read it properly then the Aeroforce will read it through the bus just like the stock MAP and show boost.
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Originally Posted by kedar
Apologies in advance for any ignorance, but if I install the GM 2 Bar MAP Sensor #12615136 (thanks Josh!) will an Aeroforce gauge properly read the boost? For the scaling, is that done with a correction factor on the Aeroforce gauge or with the tuning of the ECU? If I install the GM 2 Bar MAP sensor will the ECU get a correct reading from the MAP without any tuning?
You need to adjust the map sensor values in the tune for any sensor you are going to use.
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Pretty sure Dave was being sarcastic. Just going off a hunch. :P
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Originally Posted by Dragracer_Art
Is it REALLY that simple ?

Any potential compatability issues I need to be aware of ?

I got the cluster from a totalled ZR1 at the Carlisle show in August... so I am fairly confident the BCM may still be available from the same vendor. (If I can remember his name)
It should function for the most part. The CAN messages might have different IDs. I can't say for sure. I'd be concerned with making sure it's a BCM from the same year vehicle. It probably won't want to play nice with your ABS module or any other associated modules, and if you have an automatic transmission, it's going to have some oddities too.

You don't need the physical BCM. You'd just need somebody to flash your existing one to a ZR1 VIN number.

Again, I can't promise it's not going to have communication errors with other modules, but it should be able to poll the MAP sensor signal from the ECM. Sending that information to the gauge cluster is Class 2 serial, and will be no problem.

Originally Posted by 5 Liter Eater
Pretty sure Dave was being sarcastic. Just going off a hunch. :P
No I wasn't.

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