Bhandy

I'm definitely interested hugely, pushes my buttons


Brian in Bakersfield...

Kamran

Bret: I sent this pm to Mike also;

Going back to the options you are providing with Z06 or Z51, I'm struggling since GM has chosen a completely different route with GS for suspension tuning. GS uses softer front with bigger stab bar concept.

If you look at the table below, you can see what I'm talking about:

GS fr: GS base 119 Nmm, GS w/Z07 119 Nmm (no change for Z07)
GS re: GS base 145 Nmm, GS w/Z07 177 Nmm (same as Z06)
GS stab bars: GS base 28mm, w/Z07 32mm (larger than Z06 w/Z07)

Whereas Z06 and Z51 both increase springs for Z07, but not stab bars:
Z06: ft 119/190 Nmm
Z06 re: 145/177 Nmm (same as GS)
Z06 stab bar: 28mm/28mm

So that tells me DSC tuning may need to be different for GS vs Z06 or Z51. Will you be developing the software for GS?

RKCRLR

It looks like you are getting the information in the table above from the thread below:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ing-rates.html
With regards to the Z51 with MSRC, the MSRC spring rate is actually softer than the base springs the way the OP interprets the information (or at least the way I interpret what the OP is saying). The non-MSRC Z51 front spring is the same as base and the rear non-MSRC Z51 spring is slightly stiffer than base. They don't address base with MSRC in the table.

Kamran

Right, although I'm trying to compare same set up suspension without mixing suspension type for individual group. I.e. Z51 going to next level T1, GS base going to GS w/Z07, base Z06 going to Z06 w/Z07.
I believe GM has rethought their approach on tuning w/GS. I'm not sure if their new approach has trickled down to the new 2017 Z06.


My interest is, if DSC needs a different algorithm since it appears GS may have departed from the conventional suspension tuning used for Z06, etc, and DSC currently offers modules for Z51 and Z06. Since I have a GS, my interest is the plug-n-play application of DSC for GS.

Poor-sha

Honestly I'm not sure you'll need a different tune. I know they use the same tune for the FE6 and FE7 cars. Remember that it's a dynamic system so it's about how the shocks react to the forces on then.

I have been meaning to ask mike though if the tractive shocks they sell for the Z06 will work for the GS.

Kamran

He thought it would, but I neglected to point out the diversity in GM's tuning approach between the two and neglected to verify with him if as a result GS algorithm has to be different. At the time I just mentioned that GS has the same FE6 and wide body as base Z06, and he thought it should.

I'm not knowledgable enough to assume it's that simple (may be it is?), since Z51 algorithm is different from Z06 algorithm. I rather not assume GS is the same as either.

0ridetechbret

Poor-sha, you are correct...the wide range of adjustability, coupled with the expanded active feedback from the sensorset will end up making appropriate valving changes to accommodate the various spring rates, swaybar rates, tire compounds, and bushing materials that are used in the different Corvette models.

On the Grand Sport...Danny Popp has a customer with a 2017 GS that is running at Sebring this week with a new MagneTuner. He will likely report back next week.

RKCRLR

I understand now, didn't realize you were talking about the T1 suspension.

Koan

On the Grand Sport...Danny Popp has a customer with a 2017 GS that is running at Sebring this week with a new MagneTuner. He will likely report back next week.

Dan Hintz

I work just a couple of miles from you guys (and I NEVER seem to be close to any useful car toy shops)... watching this thread for my GS.

bhk2

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Blue04z06

Does this work with the base C7? I have the magnetic suspension, but since I did not get the Z51 ECU it only has a basic performance setting in track mode, no adjustments. Would this bring those modes?

0ridetechbret

Yes, the Magnetuner will work fine with the base MagneRide.

Blue04z06

Is there a manual or description of the track mode settings somewhere? I couldn't find anything on the website.

Higgs Boson

There is a ton of info on this forum.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...?highlight=dsc

etc

-Op-

Hi guys, this ECU looks awesome. I love the idea of being able to adjust the suspensuon how you need and only have to plug in a computer.

Questions though, does this recognize everything on its own, meaning there is no need to use the suspension selection switch on the console?

And are there plans to release on for the C6s with Mag Ride?

Blue04z06

How do you connect the computer to it? I don't see a mini-usb anywhere, and once it's installed it will be impossible to reach?

spearfish25

You remove the OEM controller in the driver's wheel well and replace it with the DSC/RideTech controller. You can just plug it in and go or you can connect a USB cable and adjust all the parameters to your heart's delight.

mallett435

There is a USB port and leave a cable connected where you can easily access it.

fleming23

Beyond that, there are built in wifi capabilities. DSC has just not released the ability to connect yet.