[ANSWERED] Why no blind spot detection?
#21
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Remember guys, its like like intentionally left it out, they actually wanted it. But by the time they got the system from GM it simply didn't make sense to try to redesign the car to have it. There's no doubt the the next major change will include the system, but that may not be until the C8 because I don't see them talking about any major design changes before then.
#22
Burning Brakes
Yes because cars should fit your ideal.
The fact that a plethora of other offerings do in fact have BSA as well as other luxury accoutrements like heated steering wheels and power folding mirrors seems to indicate that both power and refinement can be incorporated into a single vehicle.
For those not wanting beyond the thrill of 650HP & torque, there is the 1LZ. For buyers with a larger want list there is the 3LZ. Have these things as add on items and everyone is happy. No need to be so draconian to suggest it's either skip it or the car isn't a Corvette anymore.
The fact that a plethora of other offerings do in fact have BSA as well as other luxury accoutrements like heated steering wheels and power folding mirrors seems to indicate that both power and refinement can be incorporated into a single vehicle.
For those not wanting beyond the thrill of 650HP & torque, there is the 1LZ. For buyers with a larger want list there is the 3LZ. Have these things as add on items and everyone is happy. No need to be so draconian to suggest it's either skip it or the car isn't a Corvette anymore.
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Yeah, but you had much more visibility than you do with current vehicles; why do you think that back-up cameras are pretty much standard these days; also on many vehicles, especially Porsche, you can't see anything past the dashboard. I recently had an Impala as a loaner car & if it wasn't for the blind spot mirrors, I wouldn't be writing this today.
#24
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Yeah, but you had much more visibility than you do with current vehicles; why do you think that back-up cameras are pretty much standard these days; also on many vehicles, especially Porsche, you can't see anything past the dashboard. I recently had an Impala as a loaner car & if it wasn't for the blind spot mirrors, I wouldn't be writing this today.
#26
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In my opinion the Corvette design crew should ensure the Corvette always has the latest and greatest safety features. What about continuous improvement ? This is after all the MOST expensive Chevrolet they produce. I think there are a few here that would find a way to justify a lawn chair in place of the drivers seat. After all it would lighten the weight of the car and provide better performance and fuel economy.
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If it held me in as well as the competition seat and was lighter, I would take it.
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If we had a wide view of the rear as my C6 as well as prior '93 and '88 Vettes, didn't need the small mirrors BUT the C7 rear center mirror view is limited (especially with the Z51 spoiler or a Vert with the top up.) Can't completely follow cars from the center as the "proper way to set mirrors states clearly!" Before any negative comments read and understand the right side of the graphic many post! That info is based a a good tech SAE paper from 1995 and I have been setting my mirrors that way for many years!
Still think the ones I have used for 2 1/2 years have helped keep me accident free (from one with another car) as I have been the over the 50 years I have been driving (looking for wood! )
Have tried round mirrors but like these oval ones placed in the upper corners, takes less view away from the main mirror, IMO. TO EACH HIS OWN!
Because of the more restricted rear center view in the C7 compared to my C6, I find this small blind spot mirror a help.
Last edited by JerryU; 06-16-2016 at 08:07 AM.
#29
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In fact have rented cars that have the extra mirror that are installed by the manufacturer. Our new BMW 5X SUV has blind spot detection and yes it finds cars directly in the "small blind spot area" just when they enter, but IMO you need to see much more than that to drive safely!
If we had a wide view of the rear as my C6 as well as prior '93 and '88 Vettes, didn't need the small mirrors BUT the C7 rear center mirror view is limited (especially with the Z51 spoiler or a Vert with the top up.) Can't completely follow cars from the center as the "proper way to set mirrors states clearly!" Before any negative comments read and understand the right side of the graphic many post! That info is based a a good tech SAE paper from 1995 and I have been setting my mirrors that way for many years!
Still think the ones I have used for 2 1/2 years have helped keep me accident free (from one with another car) as I have been the over the 50 years I have been driving (looking for wood! )
Have tried round mirrors but like these oval ones placed in the upper corners, takes less view away from the main mirror, IMO. TO EACH HIS OWN!
Because of the more restricted rear center view in the C7 compared to my C6, I find this small blind spot mirror a help.
If we had a wide view of the rear as my C6 as well as prior '93 and '88 Vettes, didn't need the small mirrors BUT the C7 rear center mirror view is limited (especially with the Z51 spoiler or a Vert with the top up.) Can't completely follow cars from the center as the "proper way to set mirrors states clearly!" Before any negative comments read and understand the right side of the graphic many post! That info is based a a good tech SAE paper from 1995 and I have been setting my mirrors that way for many years!
Still think the ones I have used for 2 1/2 years have helped keep me accident free (from one with another car) as I have been the over the 50 years I have been driving (looking for wood! )
Have tried round mirrors but like these oval ones placed in the upper corners, takes less view away from the main mirror, IMO. TO EACH HIS OWN!
Because of the more restricted rear center view in the C7 compared to my C6, I find this small blind spot mirror a help.
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Some would argue your mirrors aren't aligned properly because I can still see the top of your door sill but this is how my mirrors are set, without the extra plant-on mirror, I find them distracting, even the ones I've seen that came OEM. I always look over my shoulder, a byproduct of when my Mom taught me to drive.
Turning your head is fine "if there is time." However evading an 18 wheeler tire tread on an interstate etc may not provide that time. The key to safe driving, IMO, is knowing where all cars are around you ALL the time. Then if you need to avoid something in the road, i.e. an AH that cuts in front, someone barreling down the left lane at 95 mph and will be in your blind spot after your "properly set mirrors" or your head turn says all is clear, you are ready. You know what lane you can swerve into, if any.
I attribute luck as one reason I have never had an accident with another car in over 50 years of driving, but also looking continually in all mirrors as a mater of habit! Frankly with today's distracted driving it is a much worse environment, IMO. I do not have my cell phone on when I drive the Vette! Don't have it connected to Blue Tooth! Admit I drive aggressivly and want all my attention on the road and others around me. As an example, I won't drive behind someone holding a cell phone or obviously talking. Recently was behind a fellow in a Porsche on a single lane road with no passing who was talking "with his left hand waving" for over 5 miles and was obviously on his phone. I stayed far back and the only time his left hand was on the steering wheel is when he turned!
As mentioned have "blind spot detection" in our X5 BMW SUV and it warns of only a narrow area. I'd prefer a convex left side mirror that they can have in Europe! No extra cost or taking space inside the car! TO EACH HIS OWN!
Last edited by JerryU; 06-16-2016 at 01:37 PM.
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BSA,,, they should use them in NASCAR
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Zenica, I'm going to strongly recommend that you straighten up and fly right. You're awfully combative in this thread, and it's going to stop here and now. Keep it up and I'm going to begin nuking your posts.
We get it: you're unhappy with your car and want blind side sensors. Tadge told you you're not going to get them any time soon, and why. Whether you want to accept that straight from the horse's mouth or not is your problem. Stop making it my problem.
Capiche?
We get it: you're unhappy with your car and want blind side sensors. Tadge told you you're not going to get them any time soon, and why. Whether you want to accept that straight from the horse's mouth or not is your problem. Stop making it my problem.
Capiche?
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Actually we should have what NASCAR uses! However that would be very expensive and require a helicopter following your car and radio to tell you when some AH is barreling down at 90/95 mph behind you in the left (or right) lane! See that when traveling into town on I95!
NASCAR uses a spotter in a booth who tells the driver who is around him high and low! At times even they cannot predict what someone is going to do. But when an accident occurs in front of their driver they can help with a "go high" or "go low!" The spotters quick guess may not be right however!
NASCAR uses a spotter in a booth who tells the driver who is around him high and low! At times even they cannot predict what someone is going to do. But when an accident occurs in front of their driver they can help with a "go high" or "go low!" The spotters quick guess may not be right however!
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#35
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Zenica, I'm going to strongly recommend that you straighten up and fly right. You're awfully combative in this thread, and it's going to stop here and now. Keep it up and I'm going to begin nuking your posts.
We get it: you're unhappy with your car and want blind side sensors. Tadge told you you're not going to get them any time soon, and why. Whether you want to accept that straight from the horse's mouth or not is your problem. Stop making it my problem.
Capiche?
We get it: you're unhappy with your car and want blind side sensors. Tadge told you you're not going to get them any time soon, and why. Whether you want to accept that straight from the horse's mouth or not is your problem. Stop making it my problem.
Capiche?
For the record, I'm not unhappy with my car.
Yes, I have some build issues like many others but I am not unhappy with my car. Do I wish it had BSA? Sure...I'd also like rain sensing wipers and headlights that can track into a turn. I disagree with the explanation given but my post you responded to wasn't directed at GM. It is directed to anyone suggesting a vehicle should omit a safety device designed as a preventative to fill the void where human error is possible, even for the safest drivers.
But I get your point...less sarcasm.
#36
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Install this, nice if included that, one of these would have been nice...
......The NEW Z06!!! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!! All 4000 bloated pounds of her.
......The NEW Z06!!! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!! All 4000 bloated pounds of her.
#37
Burning Brakes
That's the beauty of options. You can opt not to add some things and another buyer can opt to add them. I'd venture a guess that the 1LZ weights a tad less than a 3LZ. I highly doubt anything suggested here would cause the car to mushroom from 3300 to 4000 lbs, 700lbs is a lot of weight.
#38
Burning Brakes
This makes sense how the sensors could be a packaging challenge on the Vette, much more so than a Tahoe. I think we all agree cooling is of higher priority, and is still a challenge on this car (at least for the Z06 guys).
#39
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GM needs to talk to Nikon. I'm not an engineer but I do wear glasses. The new digital multifocal lenses are seamless. There is no reason a multifocal convex lens couldn't be implemented. No extra parts no sensors just a simple computer designed mirror glass with both regular and blind spot areas.
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GM needs to talk to Nikon. I'm not an engineer but I do wear glasses. The new digital multifocal lenses are seamless. There is no reason a multifocal convex lens couldn't be implemented. No extra parts no sensors just a simple computer designed mirror glass with both regular and blind spot areas.
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