OK guys, new task for the stereo gurus. Im looking for a set of components. Preferably 2 way, or if you can sell me on 3 way, go for it. My max spending limit is $200. The amp I have right now is a PG octane r 8.0.4. I am thinking that with a 3 way I would have to get another amp, which I really dont want to do right now. So what im thinking is a good 2 way thats within the $200 max of mine that works with the power that ive got of the amp. Thanks as always

 

Infinity Perfect 6.1 (250ish?)
CDT (ask scott)

Option 3, wait and save a bit more and do it only one time You have a lot of time invested in your stereo/ride in general I would not skimp now with your front stage (the most important part)

Fej

 

very true. i knew there was a reason for the advice. So let me ask this. What is a reasonable budget/price that I should spend on components? Im not as crazy as you guys are with the audio, but i do enjoy a nice system and as you have mentioned fej, i have some time and energy put into this car.

 

I would definitely think about Fej's suggestion of waiting to save some more money. I learned that lesson when redoing my 1970 Chevelle multiple times. I would "settle" for what I could afford only to later on buy what I really wanted (and thus lose the money of the first go-around).

With that said, if it's going to be quite some time to save up for a top of the line 3-way system, then I think you could do quite well with a 2-way for awhile. I am looking at the CDT CL-641 three ways but you could do the CDT CL-61's two way system.

Hopefully Scott will chime in on the CL-61's. But they are like $299. Other options are the Elemental Design components. The 6000s is a 6.5 mid + 3/4" tweeter for $125 or the 6500s for $250.

 

those infinitys look nice fej. i still have to see what greg can do for me as well.

 

Interesting post there DPG... you quoted yourself

Note: I know this post really doesn't add much value..just an observation

 

lol


ooooops i dont know what happened there. clicked the wrong blue button i guess

 

Ahhh, you win some, you lose some.

Hope Greg can hook you up on some components for a good price.

I know there was a post last week I believe about the ED components. The people with them seemed really happy and the prices seem real reasonable. I thought about trying them out in my truck.

 

The cdt cl-61's are a great deal for the money, i was very impressed with them. I have been on the icix forums a bit researching the eu-700's. all the reviews on ED's components have only praised them. The most important thing is installation though. The cdt's will give the 'upstage' option where you can add a second set of tweeters to the existing x-over to raise the soundstage higher.

 

Not to highjack DPG's thread....but Scott can you explain some more about the upstaging of the tweeters with those CDT's? Do you simply hook the second tweeters to the output posts of the crossover (ie. parallel outputs from the x-over to both tweeters)?

 

looks like i can do 250 for a set of components. The main reason i want to stay away from 3 ways would be the power issue. I also dont think I want to put another amp into the car. To me, i may not even notice the diff between a 2way and 3way. I would have to listen to an actual setup and see for myself, i guess. ugh i hate decisions. Off to do more research on these 2 sets and whatever else anyone chimes in with

 

no problem, i would like to know as well.

 

at the risk of me screwing up the explanation i'm going to link you to the cdt website:

image enhancing system:
http://www.cdtaudio.com/cdt10lp.htm
here is a little exerpt:
stage front/center stage system:
http://www.cdtaudio.com/stagefront_c...ge_systems.htm

 

If you can do 250 I would 100% do the Elemental Designs 6500s I think for the price no one can touch what they offer. Otherwise I Can see what kinda of price I can get on POLK SR6500s there 800 dollar component, but it would be a few weeks for it to come in, Im thinkin they are over 300 though. I can get Kicker RS components for like 150 or so I believe. Eclipse 2 way SC8264 for 180 or Eclipse 3 way SC8365 for 330, i figured I would throw it out there. They would all run well off of your amp. I feel like such a salesmen but I still think the 6500s are the best bet so smooth sounding, I am less then impressed with Eclipse speakers so personally I wouldnt get them. I have worked with kickers lower budget components the KS which were nicer but seemed to be kinda dull sounding, and I found the Polks to destroy the Kickers. So what am I getting at in the end, Elemental 6500s at 250, Elemental 6000s at 125, or Polk Momo at 150, or Polk SR at over 300.

 

Have you heard any of the CDT's? I'd be curious how the CDT's and the ED's compare to each other. The ED's definitely have a better price but how do they compare in sq. Thanks for the help.

 

I can say they come damn close. I did 2 cars with CDT-CL61s and they well inbetween the 6000s and 6500s. Both speakers are designed off of many of the same components. For example the 6500s and CDTs (i dont know which model) share the same crossover

Dave depending on how anxious you are my buddies 6500s are sitting in my garage in the box still his car is being put on hold so 6500s could be in your car as soon as sat or sun

 

see if you can save a bit more money and go with the best sounding speakers you can afford. The speakers you select are the MAIN element that determines how good or bad your system sounds. pick poor speakers and it will always sound bad.

A 2-way componet set is fine, no need to spend extra for a 3-way.

Speakers are very subjective to what you like in terms of the sound. You need to go in an LISTEN to them and pick the ones you like the sound of the most. That's the only way to know which ones you like.
Personally I always liked MB Quart speakers the most although the JL Audio's are very good, as are Focal's, Dyna Audio, and many others. BUT, what I prefer doesn't mean crap unless YOU like the sound of them as you are the one that has to listen to them in the car everyday.

 

sorry, but i did car audio as a living for many years, including designing some of the top IASCA competition car audio systems in the country and that explanation on that website is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard! Whoever wrote that must be in the MARKETING department of the company and knows nothing whatsoever about accoustics and audio and system design.

"......and therefore the windshield guides and controls the sound field. The guiding process provides an "acoustic ground-plane" for the tweeters. This provides a raised frontal listening position and optimally long reverberation times for the cleanest sound."

my god, what a load of BS. by placing the tweeters up in the dash the windshield is not guiding the sound. All it's doing is creating reflections via the horn effect which is BAD for the imaging of the system. It diffuses and multiplies the point source of the sound which kills proper staging and imaging.
For proper and correct staging and imaging you need to only have TWO point sources of sound information, the left speaker and the right speaker and they must be placed and aimed correctly.
Even a coaxial type speaker is actually better than a componet type speaker because each speaker only has a single point source rather than two point sources for each channel. The problem is that because of the inherent design of a coaxial speaker they don't have the same sound quality of a good componet set so componets do sound better but to achieve proper imaging you need to keep the tweeter as physically close to the midrange as possible to reduce the affects of spreading out the point source.

I won't even start to get into their comment about reverberation times for the cleanest sound because if you know anything at all about audio design and accoustics the stupidity of that statement is enough to make your head spin!

This is a perfect example of why people in a marketing department should NOT write about technical issue. Not only do they get it completely wrong, but it also makes the entire company look incompetent

 

very interesting comments. I know i have to go and listen. To me its just different at what you hear at the store versus in an actual car. I will have to give this some thought though, thanks for all the input and again, if you have more, please share

 

i respect your opinion and I've never actually heard the stagefront or image enhancing system so i have no first hand experience with them. Although, the shop (well respected, has been in a few car stereo mags and what not) where i get my cdt's from says that they do work really well. Also, a few other people on this forum have purchased them and have said that the addition of the tweeters was a great improvement. Maybe not the best setup for competition, but it could possibly help in the very restrictive corvette interior.

Howerver...i do agree with you about only needing 2 points of sound. thats why you see single driver horn enclosures being so popular among audiophiles in the home stereo arena. The more speakers you add the more problems you'll run into.