ARG!! Radio wiring HELL!!
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ARG!! Radio wiring HELL!!
So I am trying to install my new pioneer avh-p6800 and I ahve the whole factory bose HU assembly ripped out, and need to put the pioneer in. Well, I bought the GM02 wiring harness adaptor, and the factory harnesses DONT FIT. ONE factory harness fits into the UNWIRED section of the harness. I also bought a line-level converter SVEN 4 that I need to connect as well.
Now for the IRRITATING part, NONE OF THE COLORS MATCH!! And I cant find a singe dang chart that shows the bose color match!!
It already looks like I am going to have to cut the factory harnesses, and on top of that I dont even know what color goes to what!!! OR how to integrate the converter!!
I have a 1995 corvette... any help would be very very much appreciated
Now for the IRRITATING part, NONE OF THE COLORS MATCH!! And I cant find a singe dang chart that shows the bose color match!!
It already looks like I am going to have to cut the factory harnesses, and on top of that I dont even know what color goes to what!!! OR how to integrate the converter!!
I have a 1995 corvette... any help would be very very much appreciated
Last edited by bluedevil99; Jul 20, 2006 at 07:23 PM.
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you need to find the receiver module.
it is either in the left rear bin (ABS bin) or in the dash. Lets hope it's in the storage bin.
The head unit on these things are dummies. regardless of being bose or delco. the output is controlled by the receiver module.
find the reciever, you find manna.
it is either in the left rear bin (ABS bin) or in the dash. Lets hope it's in the storage bin.
The head unit on these things are dummies. regardless of being bose or delco. the output is controlled by the receiver module.
find the reciever, you find manna.
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I actually just realized that, and now the SVEN4 diagram matches up, but Im still a little confused. I cant tell what the hell Im supposed to connect to what.
My Pioneer front and rear outputs are female rca.. am I going to have to cut off the RCA connectors and wire them to the converter, then wire the converter to the amp?
What exactly do I plug the new wiring harness into? I cant figure out where the heck it goes.
I am new to car stereo install, please be patient with me
My Pioneer front and rear outputs are female rca.. am I going to have to cut off the RCA connectors and wire them to the converter, then wire the converter to the amp?
What exactly do I plug the new wiring harness into? I cant figure out where the heck it goes.
I am new to car stereo install, please be patient with me
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OK, now I am trying to figure out where everything plugs in... unsuccessfully.
I unearthed the amp and I figured out I can connect the harness to the amp harnesses, but I dont know what to wire THAT to! And what about the converter.. its supposed to connect to the amp AND the reciever somehow too, does it go inbetween the harness and the reciever?
.. I am completely lost.
See, I got the harness from out of the amp to the GM02, but no idea what to do with it.. and doesnt it need to be connected to the amp?
I unearthed the amp and I figured out I can connect the harness to the amp harnesses, but I dont know what to wire THAT to! And what about the converter.. its supposed to connect to the amp AND the reciever somehow too, does it go inbetween the harness and the reciever?
.. I am completely lost.See, I got the harness from out of the amp to the GM02, but no idea what to do with it.. and doesnt it need to be connected to the amp?
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ok, lets step back here.
You have a new Pioneer head unit... and you currently have Bose.
Are you trying to interface the Pioneer to the Bose? Unless that's the one special Pioneer that is sold by Ecklers, it ain't happening.
Sorry.
The only things those harness are good for is power, ground and memory. You will need to get aftermarket speakers.
Have you been over to the Audio/Electronics area? There is a C4 Audio FAQ that might be of some help.
This thread should be there, too, cause there are more of us there to help you through this process.
You have a new Pioneer head unit... and you currently have Bose.
Are you trying to interface the Pioneer to the Bose? Unless that's the one special Pioneer that is sold by Ecklers, it ain't happening.
Sorry.
The only things those harness are good for is power, ground and memory. You will need to get aftermarket speakers.
Have you been over to the Audio/Electronics area? There is a C4 Audio FAQ that might be of some help.
This thread should be there, too, cause there are more of us there to help you through this process.
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I have read the C4 audio FAQ.. many, many, times. People replace their HUs and keep the stock bose speakers/amps all the time. Sometimes it sounds good.. sometimes not.
So far the concensus has been in order to retain the factory speakers/amp, I needed the wiring harness for the power, and the LOC for the speakers. I am just confused on where exactly they are supposed to be connected.
I know In order to supply all the power i can go through the harness, then run wire up to the HU. So I have a rough idea of what needs to be done... I could connect the power through the GM02 harness and run it into the HU taking care of all that right? But I cant figure out where the LOC goes in. The SVEN4 instructions actually give a diagram of where it needs to be connected, but the harness it instructs you to connect to fit right into the harness, and thats where Im really getting confused.
The HU I can power up, no prob. Its connecting the speakers and working with the amp that is creating my problem.
So far the concensus has been in order to retain the factory speakers/amp, I needed the wiring harness for the power, and the LOC for the speakers. I am just confused on where exactly they are supposed to be connected.
I know In order to supply all the power i can go through the harness, then run wire up to the HU. So I have a rough idea of what needs to be done... I could connect the power through the GM02 harness and run it into the HU taking care of all that right? But I cant figure out where the LOC goes in. The SVEN4 instructions actually give a diagram of where it needs to be connected, but the harness it instructs you to connect to fit right into the harness, and thats where Im really getting confused.
The HU I can power up, no prob. Its connecting the speakers and working with the amp that is creating my problem.
Last edited by bluedevil99; Jul 20, 2006 at 07:42 PM.
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I have never done anything of this nature.
and you are flirting with disaster... I don't like the idea of driving the bose amps with anything but an acceptable bose level input.
this would require an adaptor to take the RCA leads and convert them to a compatible signal. otherwise, it will sound like ****.
and it will more than likely sound like **** anyway... I have heard these types of fixes, and the sound quality is no better than original, you are not changing much, really... the SQ is still dependant on the output.
Infact, the last one I heard had amps and stuff, and it sounded muddy as hell.
and you are flirting with disaster... I don't like the idea of driving the bose amps with anything but an acceptable bose level input.
this would require an adaptor to take the RCA leads and convert them to a compatible signal. otherwise, it will sound like ****.
and it will more than likely sound like **** anyway... I have heard these types of fixes, and the sound quality is no better than original, you are not changing much, really... the SQ is still dependant on the output.
Infact, the last one I heard had amps and stuff, and it sounded muddy as hell.
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Originally Posted by bogus
I have never done anything of this nature.
and you are flirting with disaster... I don't like the idea of driving the bose amps with anything but an acceptable bose level input.
this would require an adaptor to take the RCA leads and convert them to a compatible signal. otherwise, it will sound like ****.
and it will more than likely sound like **** anyway... I have heard these types of fixes, and the sound quality is no better than original, you are not changing much, really... the SQ is still dependant on the output.
Infact, the last one I heard had amps and stuff, and it sounded muddy as hell.
and you are flirting with disaster... I don't like the idea of driving the bose amps with anything but an acceptable bose level input.
this would require an adaptor to take the RCA leads and convert them to a compatible signal. otherwise, it will sound like ****.
and it will more than likely sound like **** anyway... I have heard these types of fixes, and the sound quality is no better than original, you are not changing much, really... the SQ is still dependant on the output.
Infact, the last one I heard had amps and stuff, and it sounded muddy as hell.
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