Radar Detactor Question
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by JmpnJckFlsh
I think you are right about the cop's observation being required to discriminate; when you have two close vehicles traveling over the limit, it's up to the cop to figure out which vehicle's speed he's clocked. If it's close, sometimes you're lucky and sometimes he's wrong. 
But in fact, if both vehicles are already over the limit, it doesn't matter...he can pick his victim. (Typical Exchange: Driver: "But, officer, HE WAS PASSING ME!" Cop: "Hmmm, Oh yeah? Well, I'll catch him next time."
) Hopefully, he's a good moral upstanding lawman, and he wants to pick the one he considers the worst offender; i.e the one with his foot buried in the throttle...if you're in a Vette, it would be a very good time to be slowing down.
But in fact, if both vehicles are already over the limit, it doesn't matter...he can pick his victim. (Typical Exchange: Driver: "But, officer, HE WAS PASSING ME!" Cop: "Hmmm, Oh yeah? Well, I'll catch him next time."
) Hopefully, he's a good moral upstanding lawman, and he wants to pick the one he considers the worst offender; i.e the one with his foot buried in the throttle...if you're in a Vette, it would be a very good time to be slowing down. 
Pro
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From: LI NewYork
Originally Posted by Whiterock1
Police radar picks up the "best" target only. Best is defined as highest radar cross section proximately. My Vette and your Suburban side by side gets hit by the doughnut eater: radar posts the Sub's speed only. My Vette 10 feet in front of the Sub: radar posts Sub's speed. My Vette, say 20 feet in front--Vette's speed. All police radar is doppler effect, unlike track while scan military radar. Keep in mind, the guns are cheap and the output relies on the cop's observation. 1/R squared is the key to all rf measurement, and in the case of police radar, rcs (radar cross section) mitigates doppler speed shift to a large degree. The beam of the radar widens dramatically in a short distance, hence the rcs being the most important criterion. At a hundred feet, the beam is 30 feet wide on some radar guns. 
Le Mans Master
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From: Houston TX
St. Jude Donor '09
Originally Posted by Pintobay
Here's the question, if he would have had a radar detector in his car, would it have alerted him even though the trooper did not point it at him until he was even with him.
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Originally Posted by Dave S
All the above comments are valid....especially those in favor of the V1...biggest problem though with any detector (other than when up against "instant on") is pure ol' "brain fade". You're cruising along playing with the radio, talking on a cell phone, joking with your passenger, etc....the detector goes off & instead of hitting the binders like now...you look around, scratch your a$$, wonder if it's someone's garage door opener, whatever....and bang, the LEO's got you cold! 
Amazing isn't it. I was coming home from my local motorsports complex just this past Sunday, day before yesterday, on the PA turnpike and my V1 went off. I was listening to the Sirrius and replaying the track day in my head, doing about 85 when it went off. For some reason I took my sweet time slowing down to 65. It wasn't the urgent slow to 65 reaction that it should have been.
Maybe its overconfidence.
Fortunately for me he was ahead and on the other side of the turnpike and a row of Jersey barriers seperating the traffic going in opposite directions and had pulled someone over on that side of the turnpike.
If he had been on my side of the turnpike he would have nailed my a$$.
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From: Southeastern PA
Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
Amazing isn't it. I was coming home from my local motorsports complex just this past Sunday, day before yesterday, on the PA turnpike and my V1 went off. I was listening to the Sirrius and replaying the track day in my head, doing about 85 when it went off. For some reason I took my sweet time slowing down to 65. It wasn't the urgent slow to 65 reaction that it should have been.
Maybe its overconfidence.
Fortunately for me he was ahead and on the other side of the turnpike and a row of Jersey barriers seperating the traffic going in opposite directions and had pulled someone over on that side of the turnpike.
If he had been on my side of the turnpike he would have nailed my a$$.
Drifting
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From: Denton The Lone Star State!
Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
The Valentine One is definately the way to go. When I'm on the interstate I usually drive 5 to 10 over the speed limit. It's not long before someone blows by doing a lot more. I let him get some distance and then move with him. In the CB language of old, he's the "front door."
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I disagree with a few of the post as i am not going to quote everyone. I have both an Escort and a V1.
The V1 is NOT the only radar to track multipal freqs the Escort can track up to 8.
This is why i preferr the escort over the V1
The escort has 3 modes. In the spec any mode it will display the actual freq that is being caught. Right now i know a list of the CHP and local enforcement Freqs as yes i have noticed they always have thier guns on. When i see the freq pop up i know that it is a cop and not a false sig.
Now also the Escort has 8 display mode 4 x 2 k 2 ka which we all know driving through town that there are false sigs comming from many areas and now and then a tower might spam a x band freq for many miles such as my town does.
When in the multi mode i know when i am driving down Hwy 62 that there is a 8 mile strech that spams an X band freq and it is very strong, as i come up to the light a K band freq joins in very strong. My V1 is going off all during this period but my escort is showing on the display both freqs and its stregnth. Now any time during that 8 mile streach if i see any other freq pop up i KNOW that it is a cop. Most cops in the area know about the X band spam during that streach and uses it as a fog...knowing that detectors will be spamming a radar hit. They set up there and tag people knowing that they will be ignoring thier detector. Only with the escort do i see that 3rd radar band come up and know for sure there is as cop in the area.
After 6 months i know every area of my town and which areas have automatic doors or x-ing walk spams of random or invalid radars. With the escort i know if something out of the useal comes up...98% of the time is has been a cop.
This to me was why i dont use my V1 anymore and only use my escort.
The V1 is NOT the only radar to track multipal freqs the Escort can track up to 8.
This is why i preferr the escort over the V1
The escort has 3 modes. In the spec any mode it will display the actual freq that is being caught. Right now i know a list of the CHP and local enforcement Freqs as yes i have noticed they always have thier guns on. When i see the freq pop up i know that it is a cop and not a false sig.
Now also the Escort has 8 display mode 4 x 2 k 2 ka which we all know driving through town that there are false sigs comming from many areas and now and then a tower might spam a x band freq for many miles such as my town does.
When in the multi mode i know when i am driving down Hwy 62 that there is a 8 mile strech that spams an X band freq and it is very strong, as i come up to the light a K band freq joins in very strong. My V1 is going off all during this period but my escort is showing on the display both freqs and its stregnth. Now any time during that 8 mile streach if i see any other freq pop up i KNOW that it is a cop. Most cops in the area know about the X band spam during that streach and uses it as a fog...knowing that detectors will be spamming a radar hit. They set up there and tag people knowing that they will be ignoring thier detector. Only with the escort do i see that 3rd radar band come up and know for sure there is as cop in the area.
After 6 months i know every area of my town and which areas have automatic doors or x-ing walk spams of random or invalid radars. With the escort i know if something out of the useal comes up...98% of the time is has been a cop.
This to me was why i dont use my V1 anymore and only use my escort.
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by anthony2823
I disagree with a few of the post as i am not going to quote everyone. I have both an Escort and a V1.
The V1 is NOT the only radar to track multipal freqs the Escort can track up to 8.
This is why i preferr the escort over the V1
The escort has 3 modes. In the spec any mode it will display the actual freq that is being caught. Right now i know a list of the CHP and local enforcement Freqs as yes i have noticed they always have thier guns on. When i see the freq pop up i know that it is a cop and not a false sig.
Now also the Escort has 8 display mode 4 x 2 k 2 ka which we all know driving through town that there are false sigs comming from many areas and now and then a tower might spam a x band freq for many miles such as my town does.
When in the multi mode i know when i am driving down Hwy 62 that there is a 8 mile strech that spams an X band freq and it is very strong, as i come up to the light a K band freq joins in very strong. My V1 is going off all during this period but my escort is showing on the display both freqs and its stregnth. Now any time during that 8 mile streach if i see any other freq pop up i KNOW that it is a cop. Most cops in the area know about the X band spam during that streach and uses it as a fog...knowing that detectors will be spamming a radar hit. They set up there and tag people knowing that they will be ignoring thier detector. Only with the escort do i see that 3rd radar band come up and know for sure there is as cop in the area.
After 6 months i know every area of my town and which areas have automatic doors or x-ing walk spams of random or invalid radars. With the escort i know if something out of the useal comes up...98% of the time is has been a cop.
This to me was why i dont use my V1 anymore and only use my escort.
The V1 is NOT the only radar to track multipal freqs the Escort can track up to 8.
This is why i preferr the escort over the V1
The escort has 3 modes. In the spec any mode it will display the actual freq that is being caught. Right now i know a list of the CHP and local enforcement Freqs as yes i have noticed they always have thier guns on. When i see the freq pop up i know that it is a cop and not a false sig.
Now also the Escort has 8 display mode 4 x 2 k 2 ka which we all know driving through town that there are false sigs comming from many areas and now and then a tower might spam a x band freq for many miles such as my town does.
When in the multi mode i know when i am driving down Hwy 62 that there is a 8 mile strech that spams an X band freq and it is very strong, as i come up to the light a K band freq joins in very strong. My V1 is going off all during this period but my escort is showing on the display both freqs and its stregnth. Now any time during that 8 mile streach if i see any other freq pop up i KNOW that it is a cop. Most cops in the area know about the X band spam during that streach and uses it as a fog...knowing that detectors will be spamming a radar hit. They set up there and tag people knowing that they will be ignoring thier detector. Only with the escort do i see that 3rd radar band come up and know for sure there is as cop in the area.
After 6 months i know every area of my town and which areas have automatic doors or x-ing walk spams of random or invalid radars. With the escort i know if something out of the useal comes up...98% of the time is has been a cop.
This to me was why i dont use my V1 anymore and only use my escort.
