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Old May 27, 2007 | 03:06 AM
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Given the choice of putting the crossovers in the back and running separate wires up to the mids and the tweeters or mounting the crossovers in the door by the speakers which would be better?
I was also wondering what size wire to run. The literature that came with my sub (JL 10W7) says #8 for all of the different sizes, 8" to 13". That seems pretty big for the smaller drivers. I'm running a 600 watt amp to it. The fronts are being fed with a 150 wpc amp. Would #12 be big enought for a single feed to the crossover? What if I bi-wired the mids and tweeters with the crossovers in the rears? I've got some nice #16 plenum rated cable that should be able to feed the tweeters.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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The more wire you run, the more opportunity you provide to introduce noise into your system, so I would want to limit the # of wires I run long distances. I'm not a fan of mounting crossovers in doors either so I'd mount the x-over under the dash. A door mounted x-over is inaccessible and subjected to a pretty good jolt everytime you close that door.
Wire to speakers, I'd say 18awg minimum. 12awg would be plenty for all of your speakers. HTH
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I mounted my Xovers in the back with the amps. Yes, i had to run extra wire, but all the Xovers are together and easily accessable for adjustment and tuning. I was a little concerned about noise so i ran the power/ground/RCA cables through the middle and the speaker wires near the door sills. (used 16 awg monster cable wire btw, cheap and effective)

I'm using 10awg wire for my subwoofer (JL12w6v2) and that's plenty of power. Anything larger than 12awg wire and it's not likly that you'll be able to fit the stripped wire in the terminals of the sub box.
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For under 800watts rms I use 12 ga for subs. Speakers I basically always use 16 unless its very highpower like +200wrms
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You dont hve to worry about picking up noise with the speaker wires themselves.

I use 16 gauge for everything. 300 watts on my fronts, and 1200 watts on my sub.

Crossovers in doors make them nicely tucked away, but then you can't adjust them...
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You dont hve to worry about picking up noise with the speaker wires themselves.

I use 16 gauge for everything. 300 watts on my fronts, and 1200 watts on my sub.

Crossovers in doors make them nicely tucked away, but then you can't adjust them...



RadioFlyer I can see you made an effort to avoid noise, but I'm afraid running the RCA's with the power wire is about the worst thing you can do. As Kale mentioned, you're not going to pick up much in the way of noise with speaker wires, but RCA's next to power is something to be avoided if at all possible.
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Thanks guys. I've got a chunk of #12 for the sub. The #16 is left over from my home theater install. It's got a good heavy jacket and is a twisted pair configuration so it shouldn't pick up any interference.
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RadioFlyer I can see you made an effort to avoid noise, but I'm afraid running the RCA's with the power wire is about the worst thing you can do. As Kale mentioned, you're not going to pick up much in the way of noise with speaker wires, but RCA's next to power is something to be avoided if at all possible.
Exactly... RCAs carry a low signal and are prone to noise. That said, I've never picked up noise having them next to the power wires.
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RadioFlyer I can see you made an effort to avoid noise, but I'm afraid running the RCA's with the power wire is about the worst thing you can do. As Kale mentioned, you're not going to pick up much in the way of noise with speaker wires, but RCA's next to power is something to be avoided if at all possible.
well, the RCAs are running up the drivers side of the "tunnel" and the power/ground wires are going up the passenger side. They only come together at the amps. not to mention the Knu krystal RCA cables I'm using are shilded to the point it's almost ludicris.
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