Will these fit?
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Racer
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Melting Slicks
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Victoria's Secret is having a sale on bras and silk panties, but I won't buy them just because I can get a killer deal on them. 
Same holds true for rear speakers.
Both look real nice, both are at a great price... both serve no real purpose for me.
Why?
The music that I listen to is recorded in stereo. That means that the sound I have coming from my system should come from the front. The only music I should hear from behind is reflected sound... and I try to cut that down as well.
Save your money and buy a nice set of components for the front. Just my two cents.
Mark
Same holds true for rear speakers.
Both look real nice, both are at a great price... both serve no real purpose for me.
Why?
The music that I listen to is recorded in stereo. That means that the sound I have coming from my system should come from the front. The only music I should hear from behind is reflected sound... and I try to cut that down as well.
Save your money and buy a nice set of components for the front. Just my two cents.
Mark
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you wouldn't at least window shop?Truthfully, some of the best advice I've seen given here.
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I don't like them because they hurt my ears really bad, and are extremely unpleasant to listen to.
I say it takes a very specific taste to like MBQ. Just like people who are fond of live eels, chocolate covered scorpions, and getting stung by bees.
For simple rear fill, get some $50 alpine type S coaxials from Walmart. They sound OK, and are a lot easier on the old ear fibers than MBQs.
I say it takes a very specific taste to like MBQ. Just like people who are fond of live eels, chocolate covered scorpions, and getting stung by bees.
For simple rear fill, get some $50 alpine type S coaxials from Walmart. They sound OK, and are a lot easier on the old ear fibers than MBQs.
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I gotta disagree with Fasthotrod about the rears. I judge a system's performance by how accurately it reproduces the live environment. If you ever go to a live rock concert or (far more importantly) a symphonic performance, there is substantial rear information. Sometimes the appropriate level of rear fill in a car can only be had by adding rear drivers. He's certainly right about saving the bulk of your money for the fronts.
Also, MBQ used to be a good company. Now they're just trading on their reputation from 15 years ago. They sold out like Orion and a bunch of others.
Also, MBQ used to be a good company. Now they're just trading on their reputation from 15 years ago. They sold out like Orion and a bunch of others.
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St. Jude Donor '08
A 6.5" setup will give you superior midrange response and decent bass compared to the 5.25" setup.
5.25" = ~22in^2 surface area
6.5" = ~33in^2 surface area
Assuming you have the power to drive it, the 6.5" setup will move more air resulting in a more powerful sound.
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I gotta disagree with Fasthotrod about the rears. I judge a system's performance by how accurately it reproduces the live environment. If you ever go to a live rock concert or (far more importantly) a symphonic performance, there is substantial rear information. Sometimes the appropriate level of rear fill in a car can only be had by adding rear drivers. He's certainly right about saving the bulk of your money for the fronts.
Also, MBQ used to be a good company. Now they're just trading on their reputation from 15 years ago. They sold out like Orion and a bunch of others.
Also, MBQ used to be a good company. Now they're just trading on their reputation from 15 years ago. They sold out like Orion and a bunch of others.
Melting Slicks
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I gotta disagree with Fasthotrod about the rears. I judge a system's performance by how accurately it reproduces the live environment. If you ever go to a live rock concert or (far more importantly) a symphonic performance, there is substantial rear information. Sometimes the appropriate level of rear fill in a car can only be had by adding rear drivers. He's certainly right about saving the bulk of your money for the fronts.
In most live performances, the music is being created in front of you. Any substantial rear information is based on the music being reflected back to the listener. The venue acoustics have everything to do with that, correct?
Unless you can adequately record and duplicate the venue acoustics, you aren't going to be able to make it sound right in your car. I just can't see it happening with a stereo deck and 4 speakers... so what am I missing here?
Also, MBQ used to be a good company. Now they're just trading on their reputation from 15 years ago. They sold out like Orion and a bunch of others.
Mark
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OK, you got me. I generalized way too much. A rock concert is a bad example. Forget that one. A world-class orchestral center, however, is not. The acoustical environment of a live symphonic performance is mixed in with the primary recording (this seems like robvuk's territory, and I hope we'll hear from him on this issue). While I certainly don't advocate cheesy settings like "concert hall" or "stadium," Rear fill in a 2-channel system is as close as you're going to get. Accurate? No. But closer than no rear fill at all. Symphonic music sounds terrible without rear fill, unless the environment was designed to reinforce the primary in some way, but then you run into that mixing issue again. It's hard to do rear fill correctly. It's even harder to do it in a small two-seater. To me, though, it's still worth the effort when results are achieved. Multi-channel SACD in the car would go a long way.
I've been SOOOO pissed at Orion for about 12 years.
I've been SOOOO pissed at Orion for about 12 years.
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St. Jude Donor '08
IMO rear fill is a must. When i first installed my setup, i tuned out the rears and couldn't stand it. I'm using the same model fronts and rears and the same model amps for each pair so there's not much difference in sound quality except what i setup in the crossovers and sound processing.
On that note, I'd probably recruit random girls walking around and ask them to model things for me 
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OK I appreciate all the input again I will say that I have an frc so can,t do 61/2 in the rear but sounds like I should go with some good components in the front and just some decent 5 1/4 s in the rear well what are people using in the front keeping in mind I don,t want to spend focal money(I have a wife and 4 kids)
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OK I appreciate all the input again I will say that I have an frc so can,t do 61/2 in the rear but sounds like I should go with some good components in the front and just some decent 5 1/4 s in the rear well what are people using in the front keeping in mind I don,t want to spend focal money(I have a wife and 4 kids)
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Melting Slicks
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I would invest in some condoms just kidding... we just had our 2nd kid-- 13yrs after the 1st one... wish we would have had a whole bunch in between.
I personally cannot do without the rear fill. If you want some excellent 2-way components, I have JBL 5 1/4 or 5x7 that would fit in your doors. New for under $100...
just kidding... we just had our 2nd kid-- 13yrs after the 1st one... wish we would have had a whole bunch in between.I personally cannot do without the rear fill. If you want some excellent 2-way components, I have JBL 5 1/4 or 5x7 that would fit in your doors. New for under $100...