C5 Tweeter Mounting??

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May 4, 2008 | 12:11 AM

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C5 Tweeter Mounting??

Looking for pics of tweets mounted behind the door pull handle on a C5.

May 20, 2008 | 08:56 PM

bmg

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I would like to know too...

May 20, 2008 | 09:57 PM

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http://www.flamingpaperbag.com/humou...akermount2.jpg

I don't know how they did it, but it is cool!!

May 20, 2008 | 10:00 PM

Z28Johnny

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let's see if I've got this photo thing down correctly...

May 21, 2008 | 12:17 AM

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here

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Jun 22, 2008 | 11:04 PM

mtm87tx

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how does this work for yall?

Jun 22, 2008 | 11:25 PM

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bad path length issues, side bias, extra reflections/refractions, extra harshness, and poor off axis response. Aside from that, it's a peachy idea.

Jun 23, 2008 | 01:55 AM

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So what is the best mounting place because i want to mount them on the a pillars since my feet cover the speaker area and every time i would sit in the car they would sound dull

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Jun 23, 2008 | 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lexizpimpin

So what is the best mounting place because i want to mount them on the a pillars since my feet cover the speaker area and every time i would sit in the car they would sound dull

I'm curious to hear some ideas on placement, too.

And which is the lesser of the two evils... the negatives that Kale raises or the issue of having your leg block all the sound anyway?

Jun 23, 2008 | 10:18 AM

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lexizpimpin

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someone i would like to place my tweeters at the a pillar by the window please someone?

Jun 23, 2008 | 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rcs128

I'm curious to hear some ideas on placement, too.

And which is the lesser of the two evils... the negatives that Kale raises or the issue of having your leg block all the sound anyway?

Depends on the tweeter. One with a propensity for harshness, I'd rather have my leg block it than put it in the handle.

A super smooth one, might be OK. In either case, its a waste of a good tweeter.

Tweeters are different. They behave differently based on their relative angle to you. The best (only) way to figure out whats best is to try many positions.
Mine started in the door handles for ease. ended up in the pillars at one angle. Moved to the base of the pillars. Moved to the floor, and finally came to rest in a very specific angle in the pillars.

Also crossover frequency - the higher the tweeter is crossed at, the more forgiving it is (in my experience.)

however that position only worked for my dyn md102s. It would be ear suicide to put my tn51s where they are.

Jun 23, 2008 | 11:35 AM

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well i will be running cdt eurosport 3 way components and i wanted them here

Jun 23, 2008 | 11:44 AM

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Then just do it.

Jun 23, 2008 | 11:47 AM

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alot of people said it was a problem separating the mids from the tweets

how would the imaging be up thhere:

Jun 23, 2008 | 12:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lexizpimpin

alot of people said it was a problem separating the mids from the tweets

how would the imaging be up thhere:

confused and ambiguous with lots of reflections.

ideally, tweeters should be the same number of inches away as every other speaker.

Jun 24, 2008 | 12:15 AM

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so is it such a bad idea just mounting it in the upper part of the speaker mount and angling it up?

Jun 24, 2008 | 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by enos44

so is it such a bad idea just mounting it in the upper part of the speaker mount and angling it up?

Depends on how you mount it.

The door panel is pretty deep, and has a cut-off point that is not very obvious until you see it without the grill on.

Take a look in this picture. You'll see that there isn't a whole lot of room at the top of the speaker plate for the tweeter to clear the door panel.

As the angle changes respective to the passenger, you see that a flush mounted tweeter would be completely cut off:
(The same thing happens on the drivers side...)

One way to prevent this is to try and mount the tweeter lower in the door panel. I was able to mount mine like this:

This allows the tweeter to stick out from the door a bit, and angle up towards the roof.

As you can see, it's not blocked by my legs... and I am over 6 feet tall.

(Like my MC Hammer pants?

)

It tucks inside the door panel nicely, as you can see here:

Hope this helps.

Mark

Jun 24, 2008 | 12:34 PM

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can you give us a better idea how you made the tweeter mounts?

Jun 24, 2008 | 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bmg

can you give us a better idea how you made the tweeter mounts?

Sure... I got them in the kit when I bought my Pioneer 720 PRS speakers.

Basically, the kit had mounting options for surface mount as well as flush mount. The surface mount kit was basically a 'cup' that had two different angles on the back.

I used a long mounting screw for the main driver, and passed it through the tweeter cup using a small washer on either side of it. Then I used a 1/2" long aluminum spacer (Home Depot) and another washer to set the tweeter off the main driver. Then I tightened the screw, which hold the tweeter cup and driver in place.

So basically: Screw --> washer --> tweeter cup --> washer --> aluminum spacer --> washer --> main speaker --> baffle.

Hope that makes some sense...

Mark