So I want to install a remote start on 2008. Now, it is a manual tranny, and before you tell me "why its not a good idea" I assure, that this will not be able to start in gear. I originally posted in general, and there was not much help there. I will either fab up a spring assembly on the shifter that will ground out if in gear, or possibly use the DEI 689m. (also my RS has the capabilities for use on manual cars, it uses the shut down sequence....which I don't want to use)

It also turns out that there is no NSS wire on this car, which really stinks, but I guess that is where the fun comes in to play

my question, has anyone used the DEI 689m? My shop can not even order them, so my exerience with them is limited other than what I have read on directtechs

thanks

 

I also posted in general. I saw you also posted on the 12v forum. I'm working on this project. It's been my experience that this isn't a common install and you are going to have to have a decent understanding or car electronics to integrate this.Also a set of service manual are a must. I'm still working on the wiring on paper at the moment. I'll post when I get closer to install.

 

i did it this weekend,


This was the EASIEST remote start I have ever done!!!!!! And i have done hundreds of them


I had to take it out because i changed the 5301 to just an avistart 4113 which isn't for manual. I am waiting for the 689m. I also haven't gotten a 3rd fob yet. I didn't want to pay that much money for something that will be bassically usless.

Let me know if you have any questions. I will have pics probably this weekend when I get all the parts.

 

thats cool. im just wondering what you used in the way of modules and what the 689m does exactly? thanks for posting

 

as long as you have the 1101t, it is a simple install. Basically hook up your tach, 12v, ground, parking lights, hood pin. Throw away the big relay harness, as it is not needed on this car. Just hook up the 200mA RS output to the wire on the actualy petionmeter switch. I metered, and found it to be a light green/white is the wire that sends signal to start. You will then have to give 12v to to the brake during RS starting.

Also, becuase you are using the brake for starting, you can't use this as a shut down sequence. So you will have to use the door triggers as a shut down. Because the door triggers are a shut down, you will have to restart the car when you actually get in it. If you use the door triggers, you can use the white wire for dome lights as the wire (so you don't have to diode isolate each door)


the 689m, is pretty awesome in itself. It is basically 2 relays. ONe for the clutch bypass, and one for the rest. It is really easy to use on a car like the vette becasue you need the tach signal, door triggers, brake wire, clutch wire and parking brake......most of these wires you already found in the RS install. What this does, it doesn't allow you to start in gear, and if the door is open, it shuts the system off. My 689m will be here today. I actually ordered 2 of them because they are a pain to find, so pm me if you need one.

Let me know if you have anymore questions

 

Thanks for the info. I see what you are saying about the doors as a shutdown sequence. I was thinking about just adding another microswitch , maybe on a bracket with a roller tip as a brake shutdown. I will let you know if I can't find a 689m. thanks again

 

Any updates to the alarm install? Does anyone have any ideas on adding a window roll up module (not the window valet)? If there was a way to interface using the window valet add on it would be easy. Just wondering if there were any other install tips.

 

my install was complete.....except for the fob. I haven't found another fob cheap yet. So it is wired, and when I get the fob, ill take pics for you.

Also, the window up thing, you can just get a DEI 530t. It is a simple install, only like 10 wires, and pretty straight forward.

 

A few things I was looking at is how do you transfer power from remote start mode to run mode? Also it looks like you would have to tap the wires at the window motors for the 530T. Also any issues with waking up the BCM to unlock the doors or are you just using the 1101T module to do that?

 

There will be no problems. When you hit the RS button, it will energize the key fob in the 1101t, and all will function normally

 

The part I have in question is on a normail RS install when you get in the car after a remote start and the car is running you then out the key in and turn to IGN and take command of the system so to speak. Since we are not doing that what is the procedure for this? I thought you had said your brake input was run to the doors. Does this mean you cannot enter it while running? I know there are ways around it and was just wondering what you had done for that with yours? I would think if you could push the start switch on the dash again it would release it if it was wired to do so. I think that would be ideal, but considering you are not interupting the ignition circuit, I would think this will have to be done a different way. Thanks again.

 

well, I used the door triggers as the shutdown sequence. Normally, you use the brake pedal as the shutdown. But because to start a C6, you have to put your foot on the brake and hit the start button, you can not use the brake pedal as a shut down sequence.

Does that make sense to you? And no, you can not enter car when it is running if done my way. I'm sure you can make another shut down sequence, but for safety of your car, the door triggers are your best bet.

 

I see what you are saying about the shutdown through the doors. I'm working on a way to use it with the brake and use the ignition switch to either take over after pushing it or some other method. Are you going to do the windows too? I think I was over planning the windows by trying to incoperate the serial link between the modues. Just tapping in at the motors appears to be the easiest. If I get it all figured out I'll post the results. I won't be able to install it till around mid June when i get back to the states. thanks,

 

Also what did you tap into for the OFF position. Just at the IGN switch also?What output from the alarm did you use. Sorry for all the questions, but I figure between the few of us that are working on this we can get this thing working for others.

 

okay, update...


so it wasn't as easy as I thought it would be. It turns out if you just pulse that wire in the switch, it will make the crank time longer than it should be. So I took out my mitchel on demand, and found that the same wire controls the starter, as well as the turn off. There are different resitors in the switch. 1 for starting, 1 for stopping. so basically, you have to run 2 relays (or use a 451m) I haven't tried this yet, but I am assuming this is what needs to be done.

the one relay will have the starting resistence, one to have the stopping. The reason you have to use the relays is because you have to cut the wire for the RS in order to start and stop the car properly. When I first installed it, i used the brake or the door pin to shut it down, but never with the switch. If you are familiar with doing remote starts, the 2 relay idea is from the new chrylser were you need the 2 relays for different resentance on the ign wire. (i did a pacifica last weekend, thats how I got the idea)

so needless to say, i am back at the drawing board. I did however call up directtechs, and I am apparently the first to attempt this car....and my tips earned me a tshirt

I will update again when I actually have a few hours to try this out.

JImmy

 

yeah I'm still putting together alot of the schematics for the different parts of the install. I'll try to get a pic posted. I did up a similar one for the start up and shut down sequence. I still have a couple of months left here in Iraq. Now if someone could only help me on my other post about the behind the seat measurements.

 

good info

 

any updates?

 

sorry, been quite busy lately

see this thread
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/audi...rt-update.html

 

I got mine working last week. will post up the info soon. Also got the windows to work through a window valet. I still have a few details to work out but overall it's working.