Im planning on installing polk audio 5.25 components in my doors and was looking into subs. I will be purchasing th nvus box for 2 10" subs and waslooking at 1100 watt jbl subs with 2 phoenix gold v1502 1000w X1 amps< one for each sub> and a phoenix v752 150w X 2 for the components. is this too much. I havent done much with stereos for years and years so Im just looking for feedback thoughts oppinions suggestions.
And yes I do like bass
thanks
Nate

 

first off im local and willing to help. I would recommend 6.5s not 5.25s and there is no reason to run 2 seperate sub amps

 

i do see that your local and now that you mention I have seen your many post around in the audio section, and i also do appreciate the offer. I already have the polk component 5.25 but the other stuff is not purchased just want to double check on things before I purchase. What do you recommend with the components I have and for the rest of my idea?
thanks in advance
nate

 

are u keeping stock headunti or not, what are ur specific goals, requirments

 

no I have an aftermarket headunit, dont remember specifics of it. Goals... clean sound, clean looking install... good bass but want clear mids/highs. I have the components and was going to just use them up front, no rears. Most what i read said rears are not needed.

 

Which model Polks 5 1/4's do you have? SR? MMC?


One of the most important questions would have to be, whats your budget?


also, what kind of music do you listen to primarily?

 

the polks are a component set db5251 is the model i believe, I dont have the box handy to check sr or mmc. My above listed items were going to run me about $600 I would like to stay under that seeing i was getting 2 subs a box and 3 amp< components already pruchased> Music wise i listen to everything , when i say that i mean it, r&b rap pop alternative country, more on the side of rap r&b

 

ahh ok, db5251.

The PG Ryval series amps are DECENT, but for slightly more money you could go with something a little cleaner and with better build quality. You might want to check out Memphis, US Amps (XT series), and Diamond Audio. They all have good quality low priced amps for your front speakers.

Generally for guys that are on a budget I usually suggest going for the best amp you can afford for your components and you can get away with "skimping" a little on the sub amp. If played side by side anyone with 2 working ears will be able to hear a difference between the quality of amps on their door speakers, where as the difference when used with a subwoofer will be much less apparent.


Which model JBL subs were you looking at?

 

yeah i get what you are saying. I was thinking phoenix gold because that was a well known brand the last time I was messing with car audio< yes its been a few years> the jbls are the gt5 series, again i was shopping sub for the dollar. i.e. 1100w each sub for 120 shipped for 2 subs. Im also kinda weird with things being the same brand, i dont want 3 different types of amps, and speakers etc etc thats why i ended up with the items i did, but will definately be checking out the brands yoe listed

 

honestly get a solid 4 channel and throw 300 rms into a pair of 10s or 12s and you will be rock solid. go post over in the great lakes section i have done stereos for numerous of the local guys and im sure they would let you take a listen

 

Yup, PG used to be a great brand but over the years with new technology as well as a lot of these companies using cheaper parts, things have changed.

You can also check out Image Dynamics, and Diamond Audio subwoofers, they have shallow mounting depths, are reasonably priced, and sound great.


If youre going to stick with the GT-5's wire them together (2ohms) and go with one amp. Theres no need to go with one for each, which would also save you some money.

 

PENT..do you recomend any particular amp and size? any particular sub? and particular amp for the components? like i said i want to stay under $600 and im going to get the nvus sub box for 2 10s so whats a good route to take


K808 i dont know the first thing about installing so i would need someone to break down the wiring subs together and what amp would suffecient for the subs

thanks for all your help guys

 

Ill have to check around and get back to you in a bit. I'll post up some possible options.

Like Pentavolvo said though, take a listen to some local guys if you have a chance. Check out what theyre running and see how you like it.



Man, your responses are quick haha.

Heres a basic rundown:


First off the sub is rated at 275 watts RMS (continuous power handling).
The sub is a SVC 4-ohm


::::::: this isnt really NEEDED but just a little more info... the GT5 has a high sensitivity which generally means that you dont need a lot of power to get it going, 500w rms should do fine:::::::::::::


Basically the GT-5 subs have one set of terminals, one (+) and one (-), also called Single Voice Coil (SVC)

so.... If you have two, and wire them together in parallel

(+) to (+) and (-) to (-)

the resistance becomes 2-ohms.

So ideally you would look for an amp that gives you 500-600w RMS at 2-ohms.

 

IMO a 12" is a better option but its ur choice. Check out pdx4.150 to power the whole system

 

I agree with Pent, I like 12's more than 10's. Personal preference.


Okay here we go....

Budget was accounted for, I usually recommend other brands/models but I dont think youd want to spend $600+ on one amp.

Here are some amp options, all of which I would rate better then the PG Ryval's...


::::::::::All - In - One Amps::::::::::

Alpine PDX-4.150

150w x 2 @ 4 ohm (doors)
300w x 1 @ 4 ohm (sub)

Roughly $450-$500

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Eclipse XA5000

150 x 2 @ 4 ohm
300 x 1 @ 4 ohm

Roughly $350-$430


NOTE: Between these 2 I would go with the PDX, BUT the Eclipse isn't bad and its about $100 cheaper.


:::::::: Dual Amps, Higher Power (matching brands):::::::

US Amps
--
XT 800.2 (doors)

100 x 2 @ 4 ohm

Roughly $150 - $190


XT 1000D

500w x 1 @ 1 ohm

Roughly $180 - $250
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Memphis Audio

PR2.100

100w x 2 @ 4 ohm

Roughly $160 - $210
---

PR1.500

500w x 1 @ 1 ohm

Roughly $230 - $270


NOTE: Between these two, flip a coin

::::::::: Dual Amps, Highest Power (reasonable price) :::::::::::

Memphis

PR2.100

100w x 2 @ 4 ohm

Roughly $160 - $210

---

PR1.1000

600w x 1 @ 2 ohm
1000w x 1 @ 1 ohm

Roughly $320 - $370

----------------------------------

Elemental Designs

ED Nine.2

100w x 2 @ 4 ohm

----

ED Nine.1x

450w x 1 @ 4 ohm
900w x 1 @ 2 ohm
1200w x 1 @ 1 ohm

NOTE: These 2 choices gives you the ability to go with a more powerful sub(s) if you choose to. The negative is that this category will of course cost you the most $$$.




I think you'd be happy with any one of those choices. Consider a single amp setup if you want an easy install, and dont need more then 300 watts for your sub.

Consider the second category if you want a little more power available for whatever sub you choose... and some people just like the look of multiple amps (I know I do haha).

Consider the 3rd category if you feel you might change subs in the future and may need more power.

 

Wow guys i appreciate all the help and suggestions. my responses were so quick last night bc i had my work blackberry and was signed on haha. I anitially thought to go with a single 12 just figured more power etc etc with the tens. like i said the nvus box i will be getting can be made to fit a single 12 and if i do that then I simply need to decide on the sub and a single amp for the whole system or one for sub one for doors?

 

No problem buddy, I've always enjoyed car audio.


If you choose to go with (2) 10's OR (1) 12", you can go with 1 amp for the whole system or 2 amps (doors/subs). What it boils down to though is your sub choice, its going to depend on how much power your sub needs.

Let say you find (1) 12" sub that has a recommended RMS of 800watts, a single amp probably isnt going to cut it.


I personally like 12's for listening to all types of music, especially pop/hip-hop. If youre more into alternative/metal/rock 1 or 2 10's would work well.

 

no i listen to everything but more pop hip hop rap, so i think i wil go with a s ingle 12 looking at diamond sub. so the sub watss by rms is what i have to find an amp that can provide that by a single channel? i just want to get everything staight bc i want to find the products im going to use < making sure they are best for the job and capaitable> and purchasing very soon

 

single 12" should be nice. I have the same listening preferences as you (all types of music, but majority pop/rnb/rap) and ive always gone with 12's. My suv is going to make the switch from 2 ported 12's to 2 ported 15's though... i want more output haha.


Yup, you always want to look at RMS of sub and amp. Peak or Max power wont mean a thing for most people. The amps I listed have the break down of RMS @ whatever ohms (of course you can go with whatever brand you find, those are just what I felt are the most bang-for-your-buck, and also amps I would use if on a budget).

My friend was running a Diamond D6 a few months ago, good all around sub.

 

so when an amp has a spec of 500 rms watts X 1 @2ohm the sub needs to be 2 ohm and would be recieving 500 watts rms. my final question is do i look for a an amp that can power the 12 and the components or do i get one for each, keeping in mind the budget of course, i can see how this could get out of control haha, thanks again guys you have been great