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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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Where is the best place to ground an amp in the back of a C5? Its a coupe and the amp (Alpine PDX-5) will be mounted on the back wall above the center compartment.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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i always go to the bolt by the seat belt pillar on all c5's and c6's regardless of amp location
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The best place is to run it back to the negative of the battery.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 03:20 AM
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The best place is to run it back to the negative of the battery.
Wow,that's funny. That's all you man.
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Originally Posted by dan6712cc
The best place is to run it back to the negative of the battery.
that's a long run...
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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no need to go to battery
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Originally Posted by pentavolvo
no need to go to battery
He asked for the "best" place, and in these cars thats the battery.
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Originally Posted by Lancejoker
Wow,that's funny. That's all you man.
I don't know why you think that's funny, it's hard to get a good ground in these cars and you can't beat going back to the battery. I just did that in my install using 0 gauge, so it can be done.
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Funny as in that's a lot of wire wasted.
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One grommet through the fiberglass.



Then ground it directly to the frame.



Works like a charm. Nice short ground wire tied in directly to the frame.

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Originally Posted by pentavolvo
i always go to the bolt by the seat belt pillar on all c5's and c6's regardless of amp location
Agreed. This is the best location. A short run to frame, and protected from the elements.
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dan6712cc
I don't know why you think that's funny, it's hard to get a good ground in these cars and you can't beat going back to the battery. I just did that in my install using 0 gauge, so it can be done.
There is a tendency to pick up noise by running a ground to your battery vs. a chassis ground, plus it not all that safe. Where did you get your information from? Also, why are you using 0 gauge wire for your C6 install, are you planning to Arc Weld?
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Originally Posted by Spying Beast
There is a tendency to pick up noise by running a ground to your battery vs. a chassis ground, plus it not all that safe. Where did you get your information from? Also, why are you using 0 gauge wire for your C6 install, are you planning to Arc Weld?
I think you are misinformed, go to a car audio site and look up battery negative grounding, you'll get all the info there unless someone here wants to type it out, you wont get noise by running to the battery. I have a C4 BTW.

Ok I just PMed you a link if you want to read about this in one of the many threads on this subject, if you disagree please let me know why.

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Originally Posted by dan6712cc
I think you are misinformed, go to a car audio site and look up battery negative grounding, you'll get all the info there unless someone here wants to type it out, you wont get noise by running to the battery. I have a C4 BTW.
I may be, but I've been installing car audio for 25 years now, and I've never, not once seen anyone ground back to the battery. There must be a reason for that, beyond safety...
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Just think about it, the frame is like a big battery negative terminal its just a path to get back to the battery but the steel is high in resistance and has many impurities, an oxygen free cable going back is the best solution in some cars. Running a wire directly back to the battery can not possibly introduce noise by itself, unless your RCAs are right next to it, but again you'd have that same problem with the power wire.
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Originally Posted by dan6712cc
Just think about it, the frame is like a big battery negative terminal its just a path to get back to the battery but the steel is high in resistance and has many impurities, an oxygen free cable going back is the best solution in some cars. Running a wire directly back to the battery can not possibly introduce noise by itself, unless your RCAs are right next to it, but again you'd have that same problem with the power wire.

I've seen tons of installers "beef up" the ground by running another separate ground from the battery to the chassis, thus improving the chassis ground.

Who knows, maybe it's the way to go, it's just not common...

There must be a reason that amp kits only have a positive terminal connector, and not a negative..... Come to think of it, I've never seen a negative terminal connector....
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Originally Posted by Spying Beast
I've seen tons of installers "beef up" the ground by running another separate ground from the battery to the chassis, thus improving the chassis ground.

Who knows, maybe it's the way to go, it's just not common...

There must be a reason that amp kits only have a positive terminal connector, and not a negative..... Come to think of it, I've never seen a negative terminal connector....
One word, cheaper, takes a lot less wire to run the ground to the chassis.
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Originally Posted by Piston_Head
One grommet through the fiberglass.



Then ground it directly to the frame.



Works like a charm. Nice short ground wire tied in directly to the frame.

Later,
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Is that gromet already on the car? Or is it something I'd need to install?
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Cheap way to sell the kits. Most DIY people will just ground to the frame. Also notice how the parts that come with these kits are also not top end parts?

The best way for the purest source for power is the source for power!

GM could of added the "Big 3" to our cars to eliminate lots of electrical issues but it saved them money by not doing so and that is the same reason why AMP kits dont have grounds either!

Originally Posted by Spying Beast
I've seen tons of installers "beef up" the ground by running another separate ground from the battery to the chassis, thus improving the chassis ground.

Who knows, maybe it's the way to go, it's just not common...

There must be a reason that amp kits only have a positive terminal connector, and not a negative..... Come to think of it, I've never seen a negative terminal connector....
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Originally Posted by Lancejoker
Is that gromet already on the car? Or is it something I'd need to install?
No it is not factory, it is a StreetWires grommet / bushing.

http://www.streetwires.com/products/default.aspx?grp=19

I installed one on each side, so that each amp can ground directly to the frame.

Later,
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