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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Ok I need some help here im kinda confused on what I need.

I have a 2008 C6 w/ bose no nav.

I have bought 2 jl audio 10w6v2's
and a jl audio mono amp 1000/1

Im about to purchase the kenwood dnx 9140

Questions are:

1. What do you think about the components that im getting?
2. Will these subs fit in the trunk and still be able to store the top?
3. I understand I need a 2din dash kit.. right? what else do i need for the install?
4. Can anyone recommend an installer in the tampa florida area? someone that has done c6's before.
5. I want to also connect a back up camera and my ipod. what components do i need?

Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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1.) I think those components will do the job but if you are going this far you really need to replace the Bose speakers and amps. Also, the big advantage to the 9140 is the 6.95" tilt able screen and 6V preamp outs. The 6140 only has a 6.1" no tilting screen and only has 2V preamp outs but is about 1/2 the price. Besides those two items they are basically the same unit.

2.) If you get the right enclosure they will but the JL enclosures is not cheap and it comes with a sub already installed I believe. Most vendors selling C6 enclosures will work But you will most likely lose the use of one of the rear Cubby's. The top will still fit if you get the right enclosure. I use Subthump enclosures but that sub you picked out won't fit in those. You would need a sub that is less than 3.5" deep.

3.) Yes, You need the Metra double DIN kit made for the Corvette and other similar GM products. You also need the Peripheral GMAH24B if your keeping the Bose speakers/amps and have On Star or the Peripheral GMAH24 if you are ditching the Bose and have On Star. You also need the antenna adapter which is Metra 40-GM10

4.) Sorry, can't help you there.

5.) You'll need the Kenwood KCA-iP300V cable for the iPod and the Kenwood CCD2000 (or similar) backup camera.

I'd also be careful buying your own parts and then taking them to an installer. Even though you'll pay more it is best to work with the installer and let them provide the parts otherwise if there is a problem there could be a lot of finger pointing. My advice is either do the job yourself with the parts you buy or work with an installer to pick the right products and price then let the installer buy and install everything. That way if there is a problem it is the installers job to figure out if it's an installation issue or a parts problem. Get everything in writing is another piece of advice I'll pass on.

One last thing....If you have not already, please read the C6 FAQ at the top of this section. Many of the questions that you'll have will be answered there.

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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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IMO you NEED to do components up front at this point
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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IMO you NEED to do components up front at this point


Unless you are going to listen to all rap music...
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Look over this thread for the needed parts, and this one for a good overall picture of what's involved.

Clarification about the interface adapter: If you want to ditch OnStar, the only adapter you need is the GMCO. To keep onStar and your current stock amp/speakers you'd need the GMAH24B and the GMAHCM. If you decide to get a new amp/speakers then the GMAH24 and the GMAHCM are what you'd need to retain OnStar.

hmmm.... looks like your current plan is to keep the stock amp/speakers and add two 10" subs driven by a 1000w amp. I hope you like bass

Any generic backup camera should work. Check out this current thread for some ideas.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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First off thanks for the detailed response.. I really appreciate it! now on to my post...

Wow this is a lot more involved than i thought! Im really gonna need a good installer somewhere in tampa. Ok so do i really need to upgrade the stock bose system? I mean I think it sounds pretty good just lacking bass but a pretty good factory system.

I was also under the impression that adding the kenwood would make it sound even better. I originally only wanted to spend 1500 bucks but now it looks more like 3-4 grand easy. ouch.

I guess my question is will it sound that much better upgrading the bose speakers? what do you recommend as far as amp and speakers and how much do they cost?

so far im at

kenwood 9140 - $1100
jl audio 1000/1 amp $630
2 10w6v2's - $500

custom box from madvette (if the 10w6v2's fit.. anyone know?) - $600
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by seanc100
Wow this is a lot more involved than i thought! Im really gonna need a good installer somewhere in tampa.
It's actually not all that bad. Many people have saved tons of money by doing DIY installs with a little help from the forum. If you can turn a screwdriver and splice a few wires together, it can all be done in a weekend.

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Ok so do i really need to upgrade the stock bose system? I mean I think it sounds pretty good just lacking bass but a pretty good factory system.
It's not that the stock setup is that bad (very debatable), it's the fact that you want to put 1000 watts worth of BOOM in the trunk when the four stock twiddlers are barely putting out 100 watts TOTAL. That's way too much bass for the minimal highs the bose paper speakers produce.

Originally Posted by seanc100
I originally only wanted to spend 1500 bucks but now it looks more like 3-4 grand easy. ouch.
Check out my setup in the mods link in my sig. My running total is at about $1500-1600, but I bought my HU when it was fairly new. If i was to install everything today, from scratch, I could easily do it ALL for under $1000.

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I guess my question is will it sound that much better upgrading the bose speakers?
YES Even the cheapest 2-way 3.5's you can find at wal-mart are an improvement over the stock paper speakers.

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what do you recommend as far as amp and speakers and how much do they cost?
IMO, you'd be better off coming up with your budget first, then coming up with a plan on how to go about getting the parts to fit into it. Relatively good component speakers can be found for under $150, or you can go nuts and spend $1000, it's up to you. Read through the "what do you run" sticky thread to see a good spread of the possibilities.

Originally Posted by seanc100
so far im at
kenwood 9140 - $1100
jl audio 1000/1 amp $630
2 10w6v2's - $500

custom box from madvette (if the 10w6v2's fit.. anyone know?) - $600
If you already have all of that stuff, you might have trouble getting the mids/highs 'caught up' to the bass without blowing away your budget.

I don't think Dave's sub boxes are quite that expensive, and from what I've seen he does great work (I have his speaker plates), but you don't want to be in a hurry if you're going to order anything from him at the moment.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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I'm pretty sure that the W6v3's aren't going to fit in the cubbies. You'll want to check with Dave to be sure, but at 6.9" in mounting depth, it's too deep for either of his boxes... probably physically too big to go in the cubbies, even with a custom made box.

Madvette's original box had a 5" mounting depth, and his new JL box is designed for the W3v3's, so I think it's about a 6" depth... but even if depth isn't an issue, frame construction may be (the W3V's have a pretty good conical taper down to the magnet, but the W6's are more cylindrical in shape).

In a custom made box, your options are going to be limited with the W6v3's. With the top stored in back, you're pretty height limited... if you need 7" of depth for the speaker, you'll need 10"-11" of height in total, and there's not that much under where the top fits. Many people have gone with custom boxes behind the seats, but then they're exposed.

I'd love to see the install when you're done. Right now I'm having problems getting my RF P3SD210's to fit...
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by markcz
.... It's not that the stock setup is that bad (very debatable), it's the fact that you want to put 1000 watts worth of BOOM in the trunk when the four stock twiddlers are barely putting out 100 watts TOTAL. That's way too much bass for the minimal highs the bose paper speakers produce. ...


... IMO, you'd be better off coming up with your budget first, then coming up with a plan on how to go about getting the parts to fit into it....
I agree with markcz. Start with a budget and a solid plan. Otherwise this project could turn into a big, ugly monster. you can drop any $ you want on a system and still wind up with something that blows. I'm looking to rip the stock Blose system out this winter, keeping OnStar, Chimes, etc. I have a plan, a budget, and I'm trying to stick to it.

Regardless of what year you drive, the area inside your vette is NOT very big. I'd say 2 10" subs is a heck of a lot of bass, especially if you don't "tune" them down a bit. I too plan on running 2 10's for a good hard solid kick.... but I'm not going to crank the bass when I tune them, and I plan on running some solid performing midrange speakers to compensate. IMO, 1 thumpin 10" more than plenty if you are looking to run 1kW to it and crank it.

If you are set on crankin 1kW to 2 10's... I have heard (not literally) that the higher end Focal Speakers (K2's) sound full and sweet coming from an Alpine amp. The Infinity Kappa series have highs that will rip your eardrums out and stomp on them if you don't tune down the highs. Just something to think about. I have yet to decide between the Focal's and Infinity as I need to find a shop around here that carries the exact models I am looking at.

Carry on...
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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what is ur ultimate goal and budget
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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I agree with markcz. Start with a budget and a solid plan. Otherwise this project could turn into a big, ugly monster. you can drop any $ you want on a system and still wind up with something that blows. I'm looking to rip the stock Blose system out this winter, keeping OnStar, Chimes, etc. I have a plan, a budget, and I'm trying to stick to it.

Regardless of what year you drive, the area inside your vette is NOT very big. I'd say 2 10" subs is a heck of a lot of bass, especially if you don't "tune" them down a bit. I too plan on running 2 10's for a good hard solid kick.... but I'm not going to crank the bass when I tune them, and I plan on running some solid performing midrange speakers to compensate. IMO, 1 thumpin 10" more than plenty if you are looking to run 1kW to it and crank it.

If you are set on crankin 1kW to 2 10's... I have heard (not literally) that the higher end Focal Speakers (K2's) sound full and sweet coming from an Alpine amp. The Infinity Kappa series have highs that will rip your eardrums out and stomp on them if you don't tune down the highs. Just something to think about. I have yet to decide between the Focal's and Infinity as I need to find a shop around here that carries the exact models I am looking at.

Carry on...
I want to keep it under 4k for the install. Dont care about onstar but i would like to keep the chimes. Looked at the focals and they run about 700 bucks for the components. that a bit much for me. I was looking at the jl c5 and zr series. looks like the c5 series will run about 300 bucks and the zr about 450. Anyone familiar between the two? Also looked at the infinity and they all run under 200 bucks? are they as good?
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Originally Posted by seanc100
I want to keep it under 4k for the install. Dont care about onstar but i would like to keep the chimes. Looked at the focals and they run about 700 bucks for the components. that a bit much for me. I was looking at the jl c5 and zr series. looks like the c5 series will run about 300 bucks and the zr about 450. Anyone familiar between the two? Also looked at the infinity and they all run under 200 bucks? are they as good?
In my opinion you should spend the MOST money on speakers. They are the most important part of a great sounding system. If your budget is 4k it does not seem like 700 is a lot for quality speakers but that is just my opinion.

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Dont care about onstar but i would like to keep the chimes.
The GMCO is all you need.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Also looked at the infinity and they all run under 200 bucks? are they as good?
Be careful with Infinity speakers. The Kappa's have tweeters that will make your ears bleed. I had a set in my old Z28 and I had to pull them after only a week. Even wired at -3db they pierced my head like a white hot sword. Make sure you give them a good preview in a closed area before buying them.
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Check out Elemental Designs e9.65i they are a killer set has very solid midbass. IMO no point in spending over 400 dollars on components the vette is too noisey of a car to reep the benefits. With highend speakers to really make use of them plan on sound deadening alot, which you shoudl anyways, and getting a radio with nice eq capabilities
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Just wanted to let anyone know whos interested that I got my dnx 9140 for $1150 shipped plus a $150 mail in rebate from 6th ave electronics. So it comes out to be $1000.. and they are an authorized dealer! Cheapest on ebay is $1300
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Originally Posted by seanc100
Just wanted to let anyone know whos interested that I got my dnx 9140 for $1150 shipped plus a $150 mail in rebate from 6th ave electronics. So it comes out to be $1000.. and they are an authorized dealer! Cheapest on ebay is $1300
Must be someone hooked you up. The 6th Ave I visited in East Brunswick NJ wanted (if I remember correctly) closer to $1,500. I decided to go with a DNX-7140, delivered for under $940 off eBay. Traditionally, my opinion of 6th Ave is parallel to Radio Shack. You'll find what you want if you look for specific stuff, and it will be over priced.
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did you ever find a good installer in Tampa? I am in need of one
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