Probox C6 sub report
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Probox C6 sub report
I was looking for a good sub for my coupe and heard about probox. My brother has a stealthbox in his 07 and that sounds good but I was looking for something a little fuller sounding. I had my doubts about an 8" sub but Gerald said try it, you'll like it and if I didn't he would give me my money back. It works great. Tons of volume if needed or wanted and totally flexible in that i can tune it to give me smooth, tight, full bass at any level i want. I have a JL audio 500/1 powering it and I'm using the factory nav HU. The whole thing sounds great. Next will be some components in the doors and a little more power.
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Oh so skeptical. Ya I know it's only 8" and it's brand is unknown. It sounds like he had the speaker made to his specs and it's probably nothing special, but it does meet the needs of his design. My thought is that it's the enclosure that makes the system work so well. It definitely takes up more room than the Stealthbox. As we have all heard before, audio systems in cars are a series of trade offs. JL Audio probably decided their largest target market would want an enclosure that didn't take up a big chunk of space in the back of their favorite sports car. So they made an efficient small enclosure that sounded good. The large custom boxes probably sound better but are TOO large. I'm also a fan of ported designs. In perfect conditions these are the ones most used, just look at most of the BRAND NAME home systems. But as stated earlier cars do not offer perfect conditions. But It looks like Probox has done their homework on this system. I'm not really into giant sound, hell I'm practically deaf already. But I do enjoy the tune-ability & flexibility of this product. If you get a chance try listening to one. Anyway, you know the line.....it's not how big it is, it's what you do with it. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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Yeah, Im skeptical. Find it hard to believe that a no name 8" sub sounds as good as a 10" JL W3.
The JL Stealthbox is a sealed unit as opposed to the ported one of the probox. Thats why the JL has smaller volume. A ported box needs to be larger. A ported box also doesnt supply the quality of bass as a sealed box can. I am curious to hear how it sounds though.
http://reviews.ebay.com/Ported-vs-Se...00000001036431
The JL Stealthbox is a sealed unit as opposed to the ported one of the probox. Thats why the JL has smaller volume. A ported box needs to be larger. A ported box also doesnt supply the quality of bass as a sealed box can. I am curious to hear how it sounds though.
http://reviews.ebay.com/Ported-vs-Se...00000001036431
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Not true at all. It is very easy to build a sealed box that sounds good. Conversely, it is pretty difficult to get a ported box right ... and more often than not you hear bad ones. But a properly designed ported sub can be as tight and musical as any sealed sub. More efficient, too, but you have to have more space.
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Heres a quote from you recently="I know a lot of people believe that HUs aren't powerful enough for component sets, but I've done it in two previous cars and enjoyed the results. It's important to select from sets with decent efficiency, but they're out there. I'm not trying to build an SQ competitor, just a "good" system.
After seeing the DIY sub boxes made from the rear hatch cubby-holes, I'll definitely be going that route. I like tight punchy base, so 8's are just fine for me."
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Not for nothing but I'm not taking the advice of someone who wants to run 6.5" Components off the anemic OEM HU. And for that matter cant even spell bass in a musical discussion.
But you do what you please.
After seeing the DIY sub boxes made from the rear hatch cubby-holes, I'll definitely be going that route. I like tight punchy base, so 8's are just fine for me."
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Not for nothing but I'm not taking the advice of someone who wants to run 6.5" Components off the anemic OEM HU. And for that matter cant even spell bass in a musical discussion.
But you do what you please.
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Heres a quote from you recently="I know a lot of people believe that HUs aren't powerful enough for component sets, but I've done it in two previous cars and enjoyed the results. It's important to select from sets with decent efficiency, but they're out there. I'm not trying to build an SQ competitor, just a "good" system.
After seeing the DIY sub boxes made from the rear hatch cubby-holes, I'll definitely be going that route. I like tight punchy base, so 8's are just fine for me."
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Not for nothing but I'm not taking the advice of someone who wants to run 6.5" Components off the anemic OEM HU. And for that matter cant even spell bass in a musical discussion. But you do what you please.
After seeing the DIY sub boxes made from the rear hatch cubby-holes, I'll definitely be going that route. I like tight punchy base, so 8's are just fine for me."
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Not for nothing but I'm not taking the advice of someone who wants to run 6.5" Components off the anemic OEM HU. And for that matter cant even spell bass in a musical discussion.
But you do what you please.
Many headunits can make 20W rms. Most people run an aftermarket amp that puts out 50W. So you get, what, 3 or 4 more DB? Some component sets are 91db ... some are 86db. You can absolutely run the 91db set off a headunit and get good sound. I was clear that I was shooting for a "mild" install and my expectations are set accordingly.
Do you drive around with the volume maxed all the time?? That's the only way you are using all the watts. I have NEVER maxed my volume ... in cars with amps and in cars that don't. (I've had systems both ways.) The myth that having more power MAGICALLY improves speaker sound is total horse crap. It improves the sound at volume levels where the amp is out of steam. If you don't need that much volume, you don't need more power.
It's true that many good speakers are poor sensitivity. It's also true that many are difficult loads that an outboard amp can deal with better. But there are MANY sets that are efficient and easy to drive.
As for misspelling "bass"? Screw you. We all make mistakes. If that's how you judge people, I feel sorry for you.
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try to keep on target guys
I'd be interested in hearing from others with ported sub enclosures. When space isn't an issue I would imagine that a tuned ported box is the way to go. With a ported enclosure you get to enjoy the benefits of all that air movement. I am able to tune it so that I feel the base at low volume levels and still not get to much when I turn it up. I've had more difficulty being able to do this with an enclosed system.
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Wow, what a dickish response....
Many headunits can make 20W rms. Most people run an aftermarket amp that puts out 50W. So you get, what, 3 or 4 more DB? Some component sets are 91db ... some are 86db. You can absolutely run the 91db set off a headunit and get good sound. I was clear that I was shooting for a "mild" install and my expectations are set accordingly.
Do you drive around with the volume maxed all the time?? That's the only way you are using all the watts. I have NEVER maxed my volume ... in cars with amps and in cars that don't. (I've had systems both ways.) The myth that having more power MAGICALLY improves speaker sound is total horse crap. It improves the sound at volume levels where the amp is out of steam. If you don't need that much volume, you don't need more power.
It's true that many good speakers are poor sensitivity. It's also true that many are difficult loads that an outboard amp can deal with better. But there are MANY sets that are efficient and easy to drive.
As for misspelling "bass"? Screw you. We all make mistakes. If that's how you judge people, I feel sorry for you.
Many headunits can make 20W rms. Most people run an aftermarket amp that puts out 50W. So you get, what, 3 or 4 more DB? Some component sets are 91db ... some are 86db. You can absolutely run the 91db set off a headunit and get good sound. I was clear that I was shooting for a "mild" install and my expectations are set accordingly.
Do you drive around with the volume maxed all the time?? That's the only way you are using all the watts. I have NEVER maxed my volume ... in cars with amps and in cars that don't. (I've had systems both ways.) The myth that having more power MAGICALLY improves speaker sound is total horse crap. It improves the sound at volume levels where the amp is out of steam. If you don't need that much volume, you don't need more power.
It's true that many good speakers are poor sensitivity. It's also true that many are difficult loads that an outboard amp can deal with better. But there are MANY sets that are efficient and easy to drive.
As for misspelling "bass"? Screw you. We all make mistakes. If that's how you judge people, I feel sorry for you.
I wasnt judging you as a person, just your inability to even spell the one elemental word correctly. Not a hard four letter word to get right and a common mistake by those who dont know much about audio yet want others to think they do. So anyway, you can shove it all the way down the throat to the bass.
Last edited by NYC6; Nov 13, 2010 at 11:07 PM.
