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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 06:15 AM
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Just bought an 06 Z06 yesterday from original owner. Didn't even think to check the audio system while checking the car out. Started on my 11 hour drive home after calling XM to get it working. Quickly found the stock Bose system (with nav) is not working 100%. Everything works except the door subs. Called the owner and he said he never notice it and it must have been that way since new My question is, what do I need to check? where is the sub amp located? Has other had problems like this? Thanks
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The door subs are self-powered. You should be able to replace them for low cost by buying thensubs from someone who upgraded their system.
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Old Sep 24, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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You need to check your wires for a short first. replacing those is always cheaper than buying new subs. check the connections to ur head unit, and make sure all your fuses are working. If the owner didnt recognize the prob then there is a good chance its a fuse believe it or not
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C6 schematics are HERE

The fuse that supplies the door subs is the same that supplies the amp for everything else, so that may not be it.

If you're sure it's both sides that aren't working, that makes it a bit strange. Check plug C1 at the amp to see if it's tightly connected.

First thing I'd do after verifying amp plug C1 is pull the door skins off and see if they are even plugged in. Previous owner may have had an aftermarket system and not properly restored the oem setup before selling.
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The fuse that supplies the door subs is the same that supplies the amp for everything else, so that may not be it.

If you're sure it's both sides that aren't working, that makes it a bit strange. Check plug C1 at the amp to see if it's tightly connected.

First thing I'd do after verifying amp plug C1 is pull the door skins off and see if they are even plugged in. Previous owner may have had an aftermarket system and not properly restored the oem setup before selling.

Never had an aftermarket system. I checked fuse 31 under the hood which is for the amp and it is okay. I found the bose amp on the pass. side foot well and all connections seem to be okay. I thought the bose system powered the high and mid frequency speakers from the head unit and the subs used the amp in the foot well. Is that correct? maybe the amp is not plugged into the head unit? what do you think. The previous owner has no idea if it ever worked.
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In C6 the 4 normal speakers are powered by the amp in footwell, the subs are self powered but they get their audio signal from amp.

If all is as you currently say, it could be the amp isn't properly splitting the low signal and isn't sending anything out to subs.

I'd still have to take a door skin off to check the sub inputs before coming to any conclusions.
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In C6 the 4 normal speakers are powered by the amp in footwell, the subs are self powered but they get their audio signal from amp.

If all is as you currently say, it could be the amp isn't properly splitting the low signal and isn't sending anything out to subs.

I'd still have to take a door skin off to check the sub inputs before coming to any conclusions.
Thank you. If I take the door panels off is there enough of an input signal to measure with a digital multimeter? Would I be looking for a low voltage DC signal?
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I don't mean to make light of the situation. But if you're going to the trouble of taking the door panels off, you may want to seriously consider aftermarket equipment while you've got it apart.

I think that anybody, even a person who has no interest in car audio, who has heard how bad the Bose system in the Z's is will tell you the same thing.

I thought (and hoped) my car audio days were over till I got my '07 Z and heard how bad it sounded.
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Thank you. If I take the door panels off is there enough of an input signal to measure with a digital multimeter? Would I be looking for a low voltage DC signal?
Check for 12vdc and a good ground on the power wires. I'm not sure of the exact voltage, but you're looking for about 2vac on the signal wires.

Before you take any panels off.... Turn the bass all the way up, trebel all the way down, adjust fade to all front, crank up the volume on a song that you know has a good bit of bass. Listen to each door and make certain that both are not working.
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Check for 12vdc and a good ground on the power wires. I'm not sure of the exact voltage, but you're looking for about 2vac on the signal wires.

Before you take any panels off.... Turn the bass all the way up, trebel all the way down, adjust fade to all front, crank up the volume on a song that you know has a good bit of bass. Listen to each door and make certain that both are not working.
Thank you, I'll look into it next weekend. I remember my C5 had codes for the radio. If I scanned the onboard computers would it point towards a failed component? Neither sub is working (no doubt).
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Check for 12vdc and a good ground on the power wires. I'm not sure of the exact voltage, but you're looking for about 2vac on the signal wires.

Before you take any panels off.... Turn the bass all the way up, trebel all the way down, adjust fade to all front, crank up the volume on a song that you know has a good bit of bass. Listen to each door and make certain that both are not working.
It would surprise me that they factory subs were bad from the get go. The bass is bad, but I found it to be strong, just very muddy.
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Anyone have a how to for the door panel removal?
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Anyone have a how to for the door panel removal?
If you want to DIY....

Drivers side & Passenger side
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Okay, got in the car today to back it out so I can pull the door panels. You guessed it, subs working. No where near as strong as my Grand sport but working all the same. Very weak with XM, better with FM and best with CD. It must come and go. At least I know the subs work and my problem is more likely wiring. Thanks to everyone trying to help
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Very weak with XM, better with FM and best with CD. It must come and go. At least I know the subs work and my problem is more likely wiring. Thanks to everyone trying to help
I'm thinking the subs are fine, it's XM's signal that's the problem
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I'm thinking the subs are fine, it's XM's signal that's the problem
agreed. i put a nice system in a forum memebers car a few years ago a C5 not that it matters for this. A year later he had me add xm to his radio, called me 45 min later said his sub wasnt working with the xm. Nothing was wrong with the stereo at all it was all the compression xm used he had no bass
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