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Old Sep 28, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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I'm installing a new head unit and speakers in my (formerly) Bose Gold system. Can anyone who's done this tell me where to connect the power antena wire? How about the interior lights wire? The factory manual isn't any help.

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Here is a wire color code chart from GM:
http://www.corvetteradios.com./Page3.html

Of course, make sure you are using an aftermarket wiring harness between HU and stock harness.
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I appreciate the link; I thought it was going to clear things right up. However, after connecting to four pink wires my antenna has yet to budge. Anyone else out there have any additional help as to where I can connect from my aftermarket head unit to the power antenna lead?
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 03:35 PM
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Are you using an aftermarket wiring harness for your HU? You should be. Simply plug the aftermarket harness into the stock harness. You will then connect the solid blue wires to each other. If you are unfortunately not using an aftermarket harness and just chopping into the stock one *cringe* then connect the pink wire of the stock harness to the blue wire of the HU. Then, of course, you plug the antenna in. The blue wire with white stripe is the remote turn on for amps, don't confuse it with the solid blue wire, some people do.

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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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There was no pink wire at the stock harness (where the head unit is located). There were a couple of pink wires at the controller (passenger side foot compartment) but they did not raise the antenna.

Yeah, I should have sprung for an aftermarket harness, but since I was bypassing most everything anyway I didn't see the point. I ran all new speaker wires, etc.

Any other ideas? Will I need to run a wire from my head unit back to the antenna relay? I did run a lead from the power antenna wire at the head unit and left it curled up in a convenient place under the dash. Is the antenna relay easy to get to?
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There was no pink wire at the stock harness (where the head unit is located). There were a couple of pink wires at the controller (passenger side foot compartment) but they did not raise the antenna.
What are you doing messing with those wires? Get out of the passenger side foot compartment for now.

Yeah, I should have sprung for an aftermarket harness, but since I was bypassing most everything anyway I didn't see the point. I ran all new speaker wires, etc.
You really need an aftermarket wiring harness to do the job correctly. That is too new of a car to be hacking the stock wires on. You will wind up screwing your electrical system up especially if you don't know what you are doing. An aftermarket harness is only about $10 and have nothing to do with just bypassing the old system; it is required to install an aftermarket HU. Reconnect all the factory wires you cut (hopefully you still can) and go to a car audio shop and ask for a wiring harness for a '92 Corvette. They will give you one. You plug it into the stock harness (the connection that used to plug into the stock radio) and use those wires on the aftermarket harness to do your cutting on. You will have everything you need to wire up the radio. Also, what is the HU you have? Does it support electronic antenna?

Any other ideas? Will I need to run a wire from my head unit back to the antenna relay? I did run a lead from the power antenna wire at the head unit and left it curled up in a convenient place under the dash. Is the antenna relay easy to get to?
Seriously, go get an aftermarket harness first, then come back and we'll go from there. I hate to see people accidentally mess up their cars by chopping on the stock harnesses. I’ve seen it happen often. It is a very simple, straightforward hook up with the proper harness. This really is in your best interest.

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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 07:42 PM
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I didn't cut the car's stock harness. I cut the plug off the stock head unit, found the switched lead using a volt meter, the factory manual, and a little trial and error. I got ignition power and ground off the cigarette lighter using slice connectors, I didn't stick strictly with the factory harness because the conductors didn't look heavy enough to handle an amplified head unit.

I appreciate your help.
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Since no one cares about my lowly C4 Bose speaker and head unit replacement forum, I'll help out here.

I emailed Metra asking for a 90 delco/bose gold harness adapter. They gave me the part # the same day. I picked it up from Circuit City for $5 (used one) 21 pin adapter goes for $16.99 (ouch) new. They had it in stock though. Problem was I didn't know where to find the harness. I agree with your assumption about the lead harness going to the oversized crapola button radio. It comes from the CDM and is not the gauge wire to hook anything but an anemic bose radio to. Since you are fiddling around the CDM or tuner box (I Guess that's what that piece of sh$t is), there are two connectors on the side passenger side of the box that has the antenna lead you need.

Don't quote me since I am patiently waiting for the Alpine to come in and havn't installed it yet. The "blue"wire did match up with the stock GM connectors and it is idiot proof since each jack is a male/female type. I just don't know if this is going to work yet. See my forum for any other info that might help. I will update it over this weekend and try to add another picture. Don't take the risk over a $10 harness adapter.
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 10:16 PM
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I appreciate the reply (Don?) :D. If you could, can you describe which connection on the stock harness is the antenna; and which is the illumination. :D

I've done some fairly complex installs in the past. Nissan ZX and Maxima, and even a Merkur XR4Ti. Eight speakers, EQ, three amps...but this Bose Gold setup beats all I've ever seen for needless complexity. The head unit is half empty, but it has a separate unit three feet away...that's also half empty... :confused: :confused: :confused:

I love this car, but it is easily the biggest pain in the A to work on I've ever owned...





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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 10:28 PM
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LOL not DON but it is a great alias. I really hated them in the 80's and still do, my friend and I have this ongoing dispute over which 80's hair farmer bands are the best.

If you havn't seen this, your going to orgasm.
http://carstereohelp.com/stereoremov...tteConvCDM.htm

I followed it so far. That site rules for all Bose removals. The CDM guide will take you to what you need to match up the METRA 21 pin adapter.

My car is in pieces right now. I have a 1990 with 16k original miles. Just did the L98 intake gaskets, oouch.

Anyway, I will continue posting in my thread this weekend as I should be finishing up. Let me know how you mount your radio, this is the most puzzling part. I will get some pictures on my hosted site by this weekend.
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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LOL not DON but it is a great alias. I really hated them in the 80's and still do, my friend and I have this ongoing dispute over which 80's hair farmer bands are the best.
I'm still an '80s hair metal fan (much to the horror of my poor wife of almost twenty years...good greif, I'm getting old)...either way, Great White remains my all time favorite band, Dokken's in my top ten or so...(go ahead and laugh, you know you want to...:lol: :lol: :lol: )

I'll check your links, thanks again...

Ps. Yeah, I've been under the hood of mine also, the bloody knuckles were barely dry from my own *optispark incident* when the, already lousy, stereo went south...ahhh, how we suffer for our art...
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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Let me know how you mount your radio, this is the most puzzling part. I will get some pictures on my hosted site by this weekend.
Almost missed that. I installed a Kenwood double din unit. The thing has a zillion threaded holes in the side of it so I measured the placement of the stock unit's mounting tabs and made my own L-brackets and mounted them on the side of the Kenwood. For the post support in the back, I just used a flal plate and mounted it to the Kenwood. There was a threaded hole in the lower back of the Kenwood so the plate with a couple of correctly placed holes mounted the stock units post. with a speed nut.
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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 11:17 PM
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That was my approach, so far I have fabricated L brackets to line up with the front mounting holes. One guy used hardrive packaging foam for shock absorbtion and to fill in the gaps. I have some that looks like should do it.

As far as this Bose project, what a fiasco. I think Bose sent 2 hot blonde hookers over to the GM president and they blew him into submission. Bose had enigma plans for the 90-94 models, guarenteed no one below average intellect would touch it.

I did like Unchain the night, Dream Warriors and Into the fire and Lynch does rip on the guitar...just Don's voice was too cheezy..reminds me of Velveeta.
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I didn't cut the car's stock harness. I cut the plug off the stock head unit, found the switched lead using a volt meter, the factory manual, and a little trial and error. I got ignition power and ground off the cigarette lighter using slice connectors, I didn't stick strictly with the factory harness because the conductors didn't look heavy enough to handle an amplified head unit.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're killing me. Nomad was 100% correct. The radio plug is the car's wiring harness. I would solder that puppy right backin, cover the solder with shrink wrap, and ask your car for forgiveness. Regardless, the power antenna wire is back there. You probably blew a fuse or two cutting the wires. Check those. Then the antenna goes up with a + fed to it.
Second, slice connectors are the bane of car wiring. They are absolutely the worst type of connection you can make. Very unreliable and unsafe. Again remove and ask for forgiveness. If you want to splice into a wire, use a blue butt connector with a good set of crimpers. Cut the wire, strip both ends, put one end into the butt and crimp. Put the other end and the additional wire into the other side of the butt and crimp. The stock wire is plenty robust to handle any radio made to date. Radios with 50wx4 internal amps really have about 12-17wx4 as radios are rated with a different system than external amps are. They are designed to handle 10-15 amps and their fuses are rated appropriately. Aftermarket radios with 50wx4 internal amps use much less power. The link Nomad gave you gives you all the wire codes for the plug that you cut off. All the wires you need are there. I would seriously just reattach that plug, spend $10 and get a wire harness that plugs into the stock plug, and then splice that new harness onto your new radios harness. Now you can just plug and unplug the new radio or stock radio and you have zero chance of blowing any fuses or causing any short circuits.

Take it from a guy that installed professinally for 3 years at a top NYC shop, you did just about everything wrong that you possibly could. At least you didn't do what some poor jerk did I saw which was to run the power wires out the window of the door, across the fender, under the hood and bolt them to the battery. He also hung his speakers from the hooks you hang drycleaning from by the speaker's cages. Not so sharp that one.

Dokken, you don't need to remove the receiver unless you want to save a pound of weight, its getting repaired, or your a masocist. The only thing you need off that is the antenna wire right? Why not just run a new antenna extension from the PLUG under the carpet in your cargo area? Cost $5 and time 15 minutes. No agrivation and you won't need to undo what you did if you want to go back to stock when you do shows or sell. :rolleyes:


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I didn't cut the car's stock harness. I cut the plug off the stock head unit, found the switched lead using a volt meter, the factory manual, and a little trial and error. I got ignition power and ground off the cigarette lighter using slice connectors, I didn't stick strictly with the factory harness because the conductors didn't look heavy enough to handle an amplified head unit.


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're killing me. Nomad was 100% correct. The radio plug is the car's wiring harness. I would solder that puppy right backin, cover the solder with shrink wrap, and ask your car for forgiveness. Regardless, the power antenna wire is back there. You probably blew a fuse or two cutting the wires. Check those. Then the antenna goes up with a + fed to it.
Second, slice connectors are the bane of car wiring. They are absolutely the worst type of connection you can make. Very unreliable and unsafe. Again remove and ask for forgiveness. If you want to splice into a wire, use a blue butt connector with a good set of crimpers. Cut the wire, strip both ends, put one end into the butt and crimp. Put the other end and the additional wire into the other side of the butt and crimp. The stock wire is plenty robust to handle any radio made to date. Radios with 50wx4 internal amps really have about 12-17wx4 as radios are rated with a different system than external amps are. They are designed to handle 10-15 amps and their fuses are rated appropriately. Aftermarket radios with 50wx4 internal amps use much less power. The link Nomad gave you gives you all the wire codes for the plug that you cut off. All the wires you need are there. I would seriously just reattach that plug, spend $10 and get a wire harness that plugs into the stock plug, and then splice that new harness onto your new radios harness. Now you can just plug and unplug the new radio or stock radio and you have zero chance of blowing any fuses or causing any short circuits.

Take it from a guy that installed professinally for 3 years at a top NYC shop, you did just about everything wrong that you possibly could. At least you didn't do what some poor jerk did I saw which was to run the power wires out the window of the door, across the fender, under the hood and bolt them to the battery. He also hung his speakers from the hooks you hang drycleaning from by the speaker's cages. Not so sharp that one.

Dokken, you don't need to remove the receiver unless you want to save a pound of weight, its getting repaired, or your a masocist. The only thing you need off that is the antenna wire right? Why not just run a new antenna extension from the PLUG under the carpet in your cargo area? Cost $5 and time 15 minutes. No agrivation and you won't need to undo what you did if you want to go back to stock when you do shows or sell. :rolleyes:
You tell 'em 92TripleBlack :yesnod: maybe he'll understand you better. Poor car. :eek: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I did like Unchain the night, Dream Warriors and Into the fire and Lynch does rip on the guitar...just Don's voice was too cheezy..reminds me of Velveeta.
I never did like "Dream Warriors" but I did like "In My Dreams". Dokken had some decent tunes. In fact, I think I still have their Greatest Hits CD stashed around here somewhere in this labyrinth of CD’s. Probably next to Winger. :lol: :crazy:

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...You probably blew a fuse or two cutting the wires...
I'm not sure how I would blow fuses cutting the pig-tail off the stock radio...in my basement...?

I guess I could put the plug back onto the stock radio before I throw it away... :crazy:


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Dokken, you don't need to remove the receiver unless you want to save a pound of weight, its getting repaired, or your a masocist. The only thing you need off that is the antenna wire right? Why not just run a new antenna extension from the PLUG under the carpet in your cargo area? Cost $5 and time 15 minutes. No agrivation and you won't need to undo what you did if you want to go back to stock when you do shows or sell.

I actually needed Fixed 12v, 12v switched, ground and antenna for the new Alpine 7894. I ran all new speaker wires....I like your idea though and appreciate the help.

One final note, I of course did not remove the CDM but only unplugged the connectors I needed. I just got the Apline SPR-175's in and should have this all together by Saturday night so I can crank some "Hunter" and "Mr Scary" since I actually like thos songs too. I don't utterly despise Dok, in fact I made my own greatest hits CD for parties and crusin like TB92. :cheers:
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