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I finally managed to blow one of my Pyle 12" that I've been abusing for 7 years. (I had gotten them for free and had a free enclouse) They were rated for 120w and I've been feeding them 150w each from a US Acoustic amp. poopie u not, they were loud. One had even been destroyed two years ago in a rear end accident when the tailglass went through the woofer. I put alot of speaker glue over the cuts and that one still works today. Anyway, I'm happy since it motivated me to put together my old system of four JL Audio 15W5s in the truck to replace the Pyles. They totally kick butt but now I learned something else. The US Acoustic amp who served me so well with the Pyles at 4ohms stereo does not like the JLs at a bridged 4ohms. Aparently the cheap amp just can't do the job, it will go into protection mode at mid-high volumes. So I just ordered my third JBL 1200.1, $260 new with free S/H, woo hoo.
To all those I recommend US Acoustic to, it is a good amp, just don't bridge or run at 2 ohm stereo :(
I was tuning my system last night and playing 30 and 60 hz test tones for a couple of hours and subjecting my JBL 1200.1 and 180.2 to their limits. I didn't even have the car on. The 1200.1 was room temp. and didn't miss a beat.
I'm not sure the US acoustics amps are as good as everyone thinks the more I read about them. The JBL1200.1 is bulletproof from my own expereince and the dozens of posts I've read about them on other forums.
I was tuning my system last night and playing 30 and 60 hz test tones for a couple of hours and subjecting my JBL 1200.1 and 180.2 to their limits. I didn't even have the car on. The 1200.1 was room temp. and didn't miss a beat.
I'm not sure the US acoustics amps are as good as everyone thinks the more I read about them. The JBL1200.1 is bulletproof from my own expereince and the dozens of posts I've read about them on other forums.
The 1200.1 in my vette hasn't missed a beat yet, have it running the 3 twelves at a 2.66 ohm load so amp is happy. The 80.4 bridged to the 6.1s get hot quick and have shut down.
Have a different problem for the 1200.1 in my Talon. Was running 2 JL Audio 18W6s off it at 1.5 ohms. Currently running just one 18 at 3 ohms and amp still not happy. I think it eats up every bit of current my Talon's alt can deliver and still wants more. I even have a second red top next to amp and it shuts down due to low voltage. That makes me second guess if a cap would help? The Talon system will be getting an overhaul within the next year. Last 18 will come out and go in my home theater set-up. Five 18W6s with 4200 watts of Crown power in my basement :D
I still don't knock the US Acoustic, I think they will last forever at 4 ohm stereo. :cheers:
Re: Alright, I finally blew a 12" (knewblewkorvette)
You might have a bad ground on the amp in the Talon. Although you are giving the amp 12.5 volts or so, if there is resistance in the ground, the amp isn't making full power and you could be overloading it because of that.
Redoing the Talon's system soon, I'll be checking the ground before I take it out to see if that was the problem, could very well be the problem.
I also only have 4 guage going to the back of the car and no cap either. Will definetely use 0-guage in the upgrade. That JL Audio 18W6 eats all the JBL can deliver. :smash:
yes and no
four 15" but in a iso configuration so really it equals only two 15" in displacement and one 15" in air space. These are the "orignal" JL Audio top of the line series (W5s) and back then the speakers needed a lot of space and one 15" wanted a HUGE box, esp for a ported setup. In my case 3,5 cubes total. The Jimmy has a enormous cabin gain so that setup jams, heck, the cheap pyles rocked that truck. Let them rest in peace :blueangel:
The US Acoustic died shortly after the pyle subs did, I'll bury the couple close together in the back yard. :blueangel: :lol:
[Modified by knewblewkorvette, 12:47 AM 9/25/2003]
I forgot to add that the four 15" were orignally in my Talon when it was new back in 91. There was few that could beat that back then. Also had PPi and MB Quart, they were huge back then.
Re: Alright, I finally blew a 12" (knewblewkorvette)
Systems are amazing now eh!! :yesnod: 10 yrs ago I used to win SPL comp's with 140 DB. Thought that was loud. :cool: Now guys are way way way up there!! Insane!